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WASHINGTON, DC - JUNE 30:  (AFP OUT) U.S President Donald Trump looks on during a meeting with South Korean President Moon Jae-in in the Oval Office of the White House on June 30, 2017 in Washington, DC. President Trump and President Moon will hold an Oval Office meeting and then give joint statements in the Rose Garden. (Photo by Olivier Douliery - Pool/Getty Images)
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WASHINGTON, DC - JUNE 30:  (AFP OUT) U.S President Donald Trump looks on during a meeting with South Korean President Moon Jae-in in the Oval Office of the White House on June 30, 2017 in Washington, DC. President Trump and President Moon will hold an Oval Office meeting and then give joint statements in the Rose Garden. (Photo by Olivier Douliery - Pool/Getty Images)
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What we covered here

  • Debates in limbo: President Trump said he will not participate in the next presidential debate with Joe Biden after the commission said it will be held virtually. The Biden campaign rejected Trump’s demand to delay the next two debates.
  • White House outbreak: More than a dozen people close to the Trump administration or his campaign have contracted coronavirus in recent days.
  • Last night’s VP debate: Mike Pence and Sen. Kamala Harris faced off in their only debate of the 2020 cycle. We’re catching the day-after reaction here.

Our live coverage has ended. Read more about the 2020 election here.

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Pence cancels trip to Indianapolis and heads back to DC

Vice President Mike Pence speaks at a campaign rally at TYR Tactical Thursday, October 8, in Peoria, Arizona.

Vice President Mike Pence is en route back to Washington, DC, tonight after canceling plans at the last minute to travel to Indianapolis where he was set to cast his ballot for the 2020 election on Friday.

In Washington, President Trump has remained behind closed doors since his return to the White House from Walter Reed National Military Medical Center on Monday. Aides have gone to great pains to describe him as back to his old self, and fully carrying out the duties of the office — despite having been hospitalized for the virus. They say he has shown up to work in the Oval Office both Wednesday and Thursday, but reporters have not laid eyes on him since his return on Monday.

Trump did, however, phone in to a FOX show Thursday morning, and discussed a myriad of issues. On his health, he said he does not have diabetes, and lied about not having heart problems. CNN has reported that Trump has a medical history of heart disease.

Trump continued, “And so I’m lucky in that way. And I don’t have any — I don’t have heart problems, I don’t have diabetes, I don’t have any of the problems that you read about, perhaps a couple of pounds, we could lose here or there, but, you know, there’s a lot of people in that category. But now I’m in good health.”

In a series of videos released by the White House, Trump sounded upbeat but seemed at moments to have strained breathing. He also wore heavy makeup but no mask. The videos, taped Wednesday, appeared lightly edited.

Thursday evening the White House released a memo from Trump’s physician Dr. Sean Conley who wrote that Trump “has completed his course of therapy for COVID-19 as prescribed by his team of physicians.” 

Conley writes that the President’s physical exams have “remained stable and devoid of any indications to suggest progression of illness.”

Conley also notes that Saturday will be 10 days since Trump’s diagnosis and based on the trajectory of diagnostics the team of physicians has run on the President, he fully anticipates Trump’s “safe return to public engagements at that time.”

Of note, the memo still does not say when the President’s last negative test before the positive test occurred. It also does not say if he has tested negative since or if he’s still considered contagious.

The White House has held no formal briefings on the President’s condition since his return to the White House, and his doctors have not appeared before reporters since Monday at Walter Reed before his discharge. 

The vice president’s spokesperson Devin O’Malley told reporters in Arizona before leaving that Pence’s sudden schedule change had nothing to do with Covid-19 or anyone in the VP’s travel party getting sick. He said there are “no positive” tests and the vice president plans to pick back travel on Saturday with a trip to Florida, and then in earnest at the start of next week.

Trump is also scheduled to phone in to another friendly TV show host Thursday evening — “Hannity.”

White House doctor says Trump has completed his course of therapy for Covid-19

The White House released a memo from President Trump’s physician Dr. Sean Conley who writes that Trump “has completed his course of therapy for COVID-19 as prescribed by his team of physicians.”

Conley writes that the President’s physical exams have “remained stable and devoid of any indications to suggest progression of illness.”

Conley also notes that Saturday will be 10 days since Trump’s diagnosis and based on the trajectory of diagnostics the team of physicians has run on the President, he fully anticipates Trump’s “safe return to public engagements at that time.”

Of note, the memo still does not say when the President’s last negative test before his positive test occurred.

White House Correspondents' Association says another journalist has tested positive for Covid-19

In a note to members, the White House Correspondents’ Association said a “member of our press corps has received a preliminary positive result for Covid-19 today after undergoing a rapid test.”

“The individual is awaiting the results of the more accurate PCR test and is currently asymptomatic,” WHCA said.

The note said the member was “last at the White House on Thursday Oct. 1.” 

If the preliminary test turns out to be accurate, this would be the fourth journalist who covers the President to test positive for the virus. 

Biden campaign manager says Trump doesn't want to "face voters" after refusing virtual debate

Kate Bedingfield, deputy campaign manager and communications director for the Biden campaign, said President Trump “clearly doesn’t want to have to face voters” after he said he would not do a virtual debate. 

Earlier today, the Commission on Presidential Debates announced the second presidential debate on Oct. 15 will be held virtually. However, Trump said he wouldn’t do a virtual debate. The Biden campaign then announced a town hall on ABC on Oct. 15.

“Donald Trump is choosing not to show up, [so] we’re going to go do a town hall and have Joe Biden talk directly to the American people,” she said. 

The Biden campaign is urging the commission to make the debate scheduled on Oct. 22 a town hall format.

“Assuming we move forward in person, we will demand that President Trump and the Trump team demonstrate that they are not infectious. We’ll demand that the commission enforce those rules and that everybody who attends that debate is kept safe,” Bedingfield said. 

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Trump’s Covid-19 diagnosis a national security "problem" and "open wound," top intelligence official says

President Trump’s infection with Covid-19 is a problem “on a national security level” and provides another divisive “wound” for enemies to exploit, the director of the National Counterintelligence and Security Center says.

“We’ll see adversaries use both sides of those questions to cause more turmoil in the news cycle for sure.”

Evanina stopped short of calling it a national security threat but said it impacts the presidential election because the three main adversaries trying to influence the 2020 vote – Russia, China and Iran – have also been carrying out influence operations when it comes to the coronavirus.

“This only exacerbates their ability to do so at scale,” Evanina said. “And we do expect, and we have seen, we’ll continue to see more aggressive activity from our adversaries on the President with respect to his COVID situation. So that is a problem for us on a national security level.”

Trump, his staff and chief White House doctor have come under fire since the President was admitted to Walter Reed hospital over the weekend for failing to disclose more details about the presidents testing and condition.

“I think corralling the information, providing the American people the truthful scenario is critical so that our foreign adversaries don’t extrapolate wrong information,” Evanina said. 

Foreign intelligence services are also working to steal, disrupt and prevent an American Covid-19 vaccine, according to Evanina.

“But once we do [get it], they’re going to surely prevent us from trying to get it into your arm,” he said. “for sure, China, Russia and Iran, same three actors, are trying to prevent us from getting the vaccine.”

“At the end of the day, once we create it, we obtain it, protect the supply chain of that until we get all the way to your arm and my arm,” he added.

More than 200 creators launch TikTokers for Biden

Creators with the Democratic Hype House, a space for liberal political discourse on the popular social media app, launched TikTokers for Biden Wednesday, a coalition of youth support for the Democratic presidential nominee. 

Aidan Kohn-Murphy, Matthew Rein, and a number of other Democratic Hype House members have convened a group of more than 220 creators with a combined audience of over 80 million followers, which, they note, is more people than voted for either President Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton in 2016. 

While the group’s primary goal is to elect Joe Biden and Kamala Harris in the presidential election, they also hope to build community Rein told CNN.

Since their launch less than 24 hours ago, the @tiktokforbiden account already has over 100,000 followers. 

TikTokers for Biden is unaffiliated with the Biden campaign, and joins a number of youth-focused groups mobilizing on the app. 

In addition to the TikTok account, the group is selling merchandise including shirts with slogans such as “Gen Z for Biden,” and “voting is cool.” Proceeds will go to the Biden campaign and other liberal causes. 

And, organizers say they hope to harness the power of young people by hosting phone banks for Biden in addition to getting the word out about Biden via TikTok.

Supreme Court Justice Kagan clears the way for sending mail-in ballots to Montana voters

Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan denied a request from Republicans to block a directive issued by Montana Gov. Stephen Bullock last month that allows counties to send mail-in ballots to all registered voters during the pandemic.

Kagan, who has jurisdiction over the lower court involved in the case, turned down the request without referring the petition to her colleagues or asking the other side for its views. 

The suit was brought by Joe Lamm of the Ravalli County Republican Central Committee as well as several voters. 

“While Covid is a national tragedy, it posed no emergency,” lawyer James Bopp wrote in court papers. Bopp noted that the Montana legislature already allowed any qualified voter to obtain a no-excuse absentee ballot by merely applying. 

Lower courts have upheld Montana’s directive. Bopp asked for emergency relief by Thursday. 

Gov. Bullock, a Democrat, issued a similar directive in the primary, and all of the state’s counties opted to send out mail-in ballots to voters. Bullock will appear on the ballot as a candidate for Senate.

Biden will participate in town hall next Thursday, the initial date of second debate

Joe Biden will participate in a town hall with ABC News on Oct. 15 – the initial date of the second presidential debate.

“As we said —one way or another, Joe Biden is taking questions from voters on October 15th!” Kate Bedingfield, deputy campaign manager for Joe Biden, wrote as she retweeted the announcement from ABC News.

The town hall will be held in Philadelphia and moderated by ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos.

The announcement comes after President Trump said he would not participate in a virtual debate on Oct. 15, which had been proposed by the Commission on Presidential Debates earlier this morning.

During the back-and-forth on the debate earlier today, Bedingfield said Biden “will find an appropriate place to take questions from voters directly on Oct. 15, as has done on several occasions in recent weeks.” 

Stephanopoulos moderated a town hall with President Trump at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia last month.

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White House: Date of Trump's last negative test has not been revealed because it is "private medical history"

White House director of communications Alyssa Farah talks to reporters outside the White House, Thursday, October 8.

White House communications director Alyssa Farah again refused to tell reporters the date President Trump last tested negative for coronavirus before he tested positive, citing Trump’s “private medical history.” 

When asked why certain private medical history has been revealed but not this fact, Farah said “I’m happy to raise that to the doctors but my understanding is we’re not making it public at this time.” She added “we’re happy to try to get you an answer on that.”

The White House and President Trump’s physicians have so far refused to tell the American Public when Trump last tested negative for coronavirus before his positive test last Thursday. 

Farah added that she expects there will be some sort of update from Trump’s physician Dr. Sean Conley at some point today.

She said that Trump doesn’t blame Gold Star families for possibly infecting him with coronavirus.

“His point was merely that in the timeframe that he was potentially exposed, there were a number of different venues that he’d been at and individual’s he’d interacted with that it could have come from. We by no means are blaming anyone who was present,” Farah said.

In an interview with Fox earlier Thursday, Trump seemed to blame the Gold Star family event for how he contracted coronavirus.

 “I got a lot of things doing. And again, when I want to say hello to Gold Star families, what I— I’m not going to be in a basement saying, ‘Hey I can’t see you as you traveled in from California and all the different places.’ It’s okay,” Trump said.

She added that there were a lot of precautions taken before the Gold Star event at the White House and based on contact tracing they’ve conducted and the data they have, they don’t think the coronavirus outbreak came from that event. She said everyone at the Gold Star event was tested.

On debates, Farah said she anticipates there will be a second debate, but they want to do it in person, not a virtual debate. “It’s not going to be virtual if the President will participate,” She said.

Pence says the vice presidential debate was "between two visions"

In his first campaign event following the vice presidential debate, Vice President Mike Pence told his supporters in Boulder City, Nevada, that last night “was a debate between two visions.”  

Pence claimed that Joe Biden and Sen. Kamala Harris “want higher taxes, open borders, socialized medicine, they want to abolish fossil fuels, want taxpayer funds to abortion, they want to defund the police, and if you couldn’t work it out last night they want to pack the Supreme Court.”  

Pence also mentioned the Supreme Court nomination fight again, expressing confidence that the confirmation of Amy Coney Barrett will go forward. 

“Nevada, we’re going to fill that seat,” he said.

He also he spoke to President Trump this morning.

“I spoke to the President this morning. He’s back to the White House and he and the first lady are doing great,” Pence said. “The outpouring of concern for our president and first lady is emblematic of the love and concern and care the American people have shown.”

Some medical professionals at Walter Reed asked to sign NDA's during unexpected Trump visit in November

Some medical professionals at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center were asked to sign non-disclosure agreements when President Trump made a last-minute visit there in November, according to a person familiar with the matter.

The request caused consternation among some of the staff at the hospital, and more than one of the staff members who were asked to sign the NDA refused, the person said.

It wasn’t clear how many refused and how many signed the documents. Trump has previously used NDAs to try preventing leaks of damaging personal information. 

NBC News first reported on the NDAs at Walter Reed.

In a statement, the White House said anyone treating Trump would already be obligated to confidentiality through existing rules, but did not deny that NDAs were requested.

“Any physician caring for the President is bound by patient-physician confidentiality guaranteed under HIPAA, and I’m not going to comment on internal procedures beyond that,” deputy press secretary Judd Deere said.

Trump’s visit to Walter Reed on Nov. 16, 2019, has generated questions about the state of his health. It was not listed on his pubic schedule and reporters were summoned quickly to accompany him there. Instead of taking his Marine One helicopter, as he normally does when visiting Walter Reed, Trump rode in a motorcade.

The White House said the visit was meant to get a head start on his yearly physical, though it has never been revealed which procedures or tests he underwent there that could not be performed at the White House, which contains some medical facilities. All the White House said was Trump received a “quick exam and labs.”

He remained at the hospital for more than two hours. After a weekend of speculation about the trip, his physician, Dr. Sean Conley, wrote in a memo that Trump “has not had any chest pain, nor was he evaluated or treated for any urgent or acute issues.”

He added the President “did not undergo any specialized cardiac or neurologic evaluations.”

Trump returned to Walter Reed over the weekend for hospitalization after testing positive for coronavirus. He was treated by a team of doctors from the hospital, along with physicians in the White House Medical Unit and Johns Hopkins University.

It wasn’t known whether that team was similarly asked to sign NDAs related to Trump’s health.

Questioned about aspects of the President’s recovery in news conferences, Conley repeatedly declined to answer, citing patient confidentiality.

On Monday, Conley cited “HIPAA rules and regulations” as the reason why he couldn’t share details on the President’s lung imaging, which led to complaints that he was dodging difficult questions.

Conley was referring to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996, which protects patients from having their medical records disclosed without their consent. Exceptions include when the information is needed for treatment, payment or operations of the medical provider’s office.

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Catch up: Here's where things stand in the debate over the next presidential debates

There’s been a lot of discussion today about the fate of the next presidential debates in the wake of President Trump’s coronavirus diagnosis.

The Trump and Biden campaigns have yet to agree on a plan forward after the Commission on Presidential Debates announced that next week’s debate would be a virtual town hall instead of an in-person event.

If you’re just catching up now, here’s how things have played out so far today:

  • What started this: Early this morning, the Commission on Presidential Debates announced the second presidential debate on Oct. 15 will be held virtually. The move by the commission to make the next scheduled debate virtual was seen as needed by members of the debate commission given the uncertainty around the President’s health.
  • Trump’s initial reaction: Moments later, President Trump told Fox Business, “I am not going to do a virtual debate.” He continued: “I am not going to waste my time on a virtual debate.”
  • Biden’s initial reaction: Shortly after the commission’s announcement, the Biden campaign announced Biden would attend the virtual event on Oct. 15.
  • The Biden campaign proposal: Biden’s campaign announced that because the President had seemingly bailed on the Oct. 15 debate — which was set to be a town hall-style debate — they urged the commission to make the debate scheduled on October 22 a town hall.
  • The Trump campaign proposal: After that, Trump campaign manager Bill Stepien said they would be willing to push the Oct. 15 debate back a week and then move the third debate to Oct. 29, just days before the November 3 election.
  • But then: But Biden’s campaign rejected the Trump campaign proposal, with campaign spokesperson Kate Bedingfield saying in response, “Donald Trump doesn’t make the debate schedule; the Debate Commission does.”

We asked viewers from around the country for their reactions to last night's debate. Here's what they said. 

Vice President Mike Pence and California Sen. Kamala Harris faced off Wednesday night in their only debate of the 2020 election campaign in Utah.

The debate covered more topics than last week’s Trump-Biden showdown, but overall, the debate ultimately was about Trump.

Here are some reactions our viewers shared with us:

  • Steve from Tennessee: “Mike Pence won hands down. Kamala Harris’s smirks and scowling and shaking her head when Pence was stating facts she knew were true was unbecoming at best. She ducked too many questions including packing the court and Biden’s health or lack thereof.”
  • Robin Edwards from Logan County, Kentucky: “VP Pence acted as if he was the superior person on the stage. He seemed to look down on the two women involved. Then, when it was over, his wife stripped off her mask. As head of the Covid task force, you’d think he would act with some sense. VP Pence acted like his boss, only with more polished words that were not true. He needs to stop the lying.”
  • Nathaniel Cain from Cincinnati, Ohio: “While both candidates were equal in debate style, Harris (in my opinion) won on the one attribute that decided the 1960 TV debate between Kennedy and Nixon: physical appearance. Harris was calm, smiling and acted very professional while speaking directly to the American people as well as to Pence and Page. Pence on the other hand looked a bit uncomfortable, had a bloodshot eye and (in a viral moment) had a fly land on his hair for two minutes. So, while the issues were important to discuss, their appearance could not be any more different.”
  • Alex from Boston: “I was proud to be a Biden/Harris supporter tonight. I do believe that Mike Pence is a decent man, but I also believe that he sold his soul to a devil named Trump. Pence and countless others who were complicit will be judged. There is simply no doubt.”
  • Natalie Thornton from Indiana: “I don’t believe that either candidate provided informative support to their running mates nor the American public. We are still left with unanswered questions that affect our current quality of life in this country and going forward.”

Read more reactions here.

Biden campaign rejects Trump debate plan: "Trump's erratic behavior does not allow him to rewrite the calendar"

The Biden campaign is swiftly rejecting the Trump campaign’s request to push both debates back a week, moving the town hall debate from Oct. 15 to Oct. 22 and the third and final debate from Oct. 22 to Oct. 29.

Biden spokesperson Kate Bedingfield said in response, “Donald Trump doesn’t make the debate schedule; the Debate Commission does.”

Ron Klain, one of Biden’s top advisers for the presidential debates, tweeted a similar message.

“The debate dates were set months ago by the Debate Commission, and locked in by the two campaigns. Just this morning, Donald Trump rejected the debate set for next week,” said Klain. “He doesn’t get to set the calendar based on his ever changing whims.”

McConnell says he hasn't been to the White House since the beginning of August

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said he believes President Trump’s health is doing fine, but he has not been to the White House since the beginning of August.

He also added a vaccine will not be ready until next year and that he agrees with Democrats that there is a need for another “rescue package.”

McConnell also briefly weighed in on the stimulus talks, only to underscore that significant differences remain. 

“We do agree that another rescue package is needed. We have vast differences about how much we should spend,” he said.

As to the next presidential debate, McConnell said he had no observations beyond “there’s going to be an election and both campaigns will do what’s in their best interest.” 

Trump campaign agrees on moving second debate back by a week

President Trump’s campaign manager issued a new statement today announcing they agree to a suggestion by Joe Biden’s campaign to delay the second debate by a week so it can be in person.

“The [Commission on Presidential Debates] and the media cannot hide Joe Biden forever. Americans deserve to hear directly from both presidential candidates on these dates, October 22 and 29,” Bill Stepien said in a statement. 

Earlier today, Trump said that he will not participate in the second presidential debate with Biden after the Commission on Presidential Debates said the event will be held virtually in the wake of the President’s positive coronavirus diagnosis.

“I am not going to do a virtual debate,” Trump said on Fox Business. “I am not going to waste my time on a virtual debate.”

Biden "will find an appropriate place" to take questions from voters on Oct. 15, campaign says 

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden delivers remarks while campaigning in Grand Rapids, Michigan, on October 2.

The Biden campaign is saying that because President Trump expressed that he will not participate in a virtual presidential debate next week, Joe Biden “will find an appropriate place to take questions from voters directly on Oct. 15th, as he has done on several occasions in recent weeks.” 

Deputy campaign manager Kate Bedingfield urged the Debate Commission in a statement to move the town hall-style debate scheduled for Oct. 15 to Oct. 22 “so that the President is not able to evade accountability.”

On Fox Business this morning, Trump said “I am not going to waste my time on a virtual debate.”

Trump talked about his health, the election and the debates in an interview today. Here are the highlights.

President Donald Trump removes his mask upon returning to the White House from Walter Reed National Military Medical Center on October 5.

It’s been less than a week since President Trump announced he tested positive for Covid-19. He returned from Walter Reed Medical Center this week on Monday. Unsatisfied with the temporary office space erected for him in the White House residence, where he was isolating, Trump returned to the Oval Office Wednesday.

And this morning, the President gave a 56-minute interview to Fox Business. Here are the highlights from the phone interview:

The President said he will not participate in a virtual debate.

The Commission on Presidential Debates announced that the second debate between President Trump and Joe Biden will be held virtually. But Trump said he won’t appear.

“I’m not going to waste my time on a virtual debate. That’s not what debating is all about,” he told Fox in an interview, calling it “ridiculous.” He lamented that the commission “didn’t even tell us about it” and that it is “trying to protect Joe Biden.”

Trump complained that he would have to “sit behind a computer” in a virtual debate and the moderator could “cut you off whenever they want.”

Trump said he doesn’t believe he is contagious

“I don’t think I’m contagious, at all,” he said less than a week after testing positive for coronavirus, adding that he is immune from another infection.

He attributed his recovery to being a “perfect physical specimen.”

He said he’s ready to hold campaign rallies.

Less than a week after testing positive for coronavirus, he said he is ready to resume campaign rallies. He insisted he is, in fact, better than normal and is prepared to resume his campaign schedule.

“I think I’m better…to a point where I’d love to do a rally tonight. I wanted to do one last night,” Trump said. “I feel perfect. There’s nothing wrong.”

But then he said that he hasn’t been tested for the virus.

It’s unclear how the President is assessing that he is not contagious. When asked if he was recently tested, he said:

“No, I’ll be tested very soon, but I’m essentially very clean. They say it’s over a period of six, seven days,” he said. 

He called his illness “almost a gift from heaven.”

Trump again praised the drugs he received at Walter Reed but said he couldn’t have avoided contracting coronavirus.

“No matter how good the security you’re not going to protect yourself from this thing,” he said, adding later: “You catch this thing. It’s particles of dust.” The virus is not “particles of dust.”

Some context to keep in mind: For Trump to not be contagious, it needs to have been at least 10 days, at a bare minimum, since Trump’s first symptoms and 24 hours fever-free without taking medication that could reduce his fever. Trump should still be isolating, not campaigning. While he may have some degree of protection, no one can say for certain whether he is immune.  

How undecided voters reacted to last night's debate

Vice President Mike Pence and California Sen. Kamala Harris faced off in their only debate of the 2020 election campaign Wednesday night in Utah.

CNN’s Randi Kaye spoke to some undecided voters earlier today to get their reaction to the debate.

Watch the conversation below:

If you missed the debate, you can watch the highlights here.

The commission was unanimous in decision to hold second debate virtually

The Commission on Presidential Debates was unanimous in their decision to hold the second debate next week between President Trump and Joe Biden virtually, two members of the commission tell CNN.

Commission members met on Wednesday to discuss the proposal, where every member present (one person was absent) voted to hold the debate virtually, the members said.

The commission is made up of three co-chairs and ten members of the board of directors.

Following the announcement this morning, Trump said he would not participate in the debate.

“I am not going to do a virtual debate,” Trump said on Fox Business. “I am not going to waste my time on a virtual debate.”

Biden’s campaign on Thursday swiftly agreed to the virtual format. 

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