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The first Democratic debate, night 2

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What you need to know

  • Our fact checks: See who got it right (and wrong) during the debates on night 1 and on night 2.
  • Thursday night: Marianne Williamson, John Hickenlooper, Andrew Yang, Pete Buttigieg, Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, Kamala Harris, Kirsten Gillibrand, Michael Bennet and Eric Swalwell went head-to-head on the debate stage.
  • Wednesday night: Last night, Bill de Blasio, Tim Ryan, Julián Castro, Cory Booker, Elizabeth Warren, Beto O’Rourke, Amy Klobuchar, Tulsi Gabbard, Jay Inslee and John Delaney faced off. See it all here.
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Our live coverage of tonight’s Democratic debate is winding down, but you can read our takeaways at the links below:

Fact check: Biden on his past praise of segregationist senators

Joe Biden and Kamala Harris had a tense exchange over Biden’s past praise of some senators who supported segregation and his opposition to busing.   

“It was hurtful to hear you talk about the reputations of two United States senators who built their reputations and career on the segregation of race in this country. It was not only that, but you also worked with them to oppose busing,” Harris said. 

Biden responded, “I do not praise racists. That is not true.” 

Facts First: This exchange needs context. Biden does have a history of praising senators who supported segregation, but in several instances he claimed they clashed on the issue of civil rights. 

Biden’s campaign was riled last week when he cited two segregationist senators and as examples of colleagues he could work with during an era where “at least there was some civility” in the Senate. Biden did not praise either of the men, but he does have a history of praising several senators who supported segregation and opposed the Civil Rights Act – though not for their positions opposing civil rights. 

Biden praised then-Mississippi Sen. John Stennis, a staunch segregationist as a “hero” and “the rockbound integrity of the United States Congress” in the 1980s. Biden called Stennis “a hell of a guy” in 2008.

Biden also has praised South Carolina Sen. Strom Thurmond, who ran for president as a segregationist in 1948 as a Dixiecrat. In 1993, Biden spoke at Thurmond’s 90th birthday and praised him by comparing him to Confederate General Robert E. Lee. 

Biden has claimed both Stennis and Thurmond changed with the times. When Thurmond died, Biden said he did not believe the senator was racist at his core. 

In his Senate farewell address in 2009, Biden said he became friends with Stennis, Thurmond and Mississippi’s James Eastland despite opposing their views on civil rights.  

“I never thought I’d develop deep personal relationships with men whose position played an extremely large part in my desire to come to the Senate in the first place to change what they believed in – Eastland, Stennis, Thurmond. All these men became my friends,” Biden said.

Fact check: Biden on Iraq War troop withdrawal

Joe Biden, asked about his vote for the Iraq war and his judgment on taking the US to war, touted the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq in 2011.

Facts first: Biden is correct that he oversaw the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq in 2011. But he left out a key point – three years later, US troops returned to Iraq to fight ISIS, which rose to power in the vacuum left, in part, by the withdrawal of American forces.

Biden voted to authorize military intervention in Iraq in 2002 and later became a critic of the Bush administration’s handling of the war. His son, Beau, also deployed to Iraq for a year in 2008, serving in an administrative post with the 261st Signal Brigade.

The withdrawal of roughly 150,000 US combat troops from Iraq became a major part of Biden and President Obama’s election platform in 2008 and ultimately, the last American convoy left the country in December 2011. 

In 2014, the US sent a much smaller contingent of a few thousand soldiers back to Iraq as part of the campaign against ISIS after the terror group rose to power and claimed a significant portion of territory both in Iraq and Syria.

Fact check: Sanders on top 1% seeing a $21 trillion wealth increase

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders hammered home a familiar theme for him, saying that the middle class is stagnating, while the richest Americans are adding to their wealth. 

“In the last 30 years, the top 1% has seen a $21 trillion increase in their wealth,” he said at Thursday’s debate.

Facts First: The top 1% of households saw their wealth grow by $22.3 trillion on an inflation-adjusted basis, according to Federal Reserve data

Matt Bruenig, the founder of the left-leaning People’s Policy Project, earlier this month also released an analysis based on Federal Reserve data, which tallies Americans’ wealth.

He adjusted it for inflation, but removed the value of certain possessions, such as cars and refrigerators, and found a $21 trillion increase in wealth for the top 1% from 1989 to 2018, while the wealth of the bottom 50 percent dropped by $900 billion during the same timeframe.

Fact check: Buttigieg on Chinese investment in artificial intelligence

Mayor Pete Buttigieg said Thursday that China is investing massively in artificial intelligence.  

Facts First: Buttigieg’s assertion that China is prioritizing artificial intelligence is true but the Trump administration has proposed significant investments as well. 

The Chinese government has outlined an aggressive plan to become a world leader in artificial intelligence by 2030, according to the New York Times. One Chinese city, Tianjin, announced last year it will establish a $16 billion fund to support the development of AI, according to Reuters

And according to CNBC, Chinese state media reported last year that the country will build a $2.1 billion development campus that will accommodate 400 businesses and produce an estimated $7 billion in annual productivity.

China accounted for 48 percent of all AI-related venture capital in 2017 — outstripping the United States for the first time, according to CB Insights, a venture funding research firm.   

Marianne Williamson on her debate performance: "I am rather disappointed in myself"

Presidential candidate Marianne Williamson wasn’t pleased with her performance tonight and said she is hoping to elbow her way into the conversation next time.

“I am rather disappointed in myself,” she told CNN. “Personally, I don’t feel I got a chance to answer many questions, and even when I answered the questions, the way things were positioned … it was certainly not my best. But I’ll be back in a month, and I’ll practice real hard to learn better how to do it.”

Williamson, an author and spiritual adviser, said she’ll need to “learn how to elbow my way in” for the next debate.

“It’s not my nature,” she said.

Williamson went on to say last night’s debate was less fiery.

“If there had been so much of that last night, I think I would have said, ‘OK, now I have gotta practice this.’ That’s why I went in quite naive,” she said.

Fact check: Biden on his busing record

Sen. Kamala Harris and Joe Biden had a testy exchange on race and school busing.

It began with Harris referencing Biden’s recent comments about working with pro-segregationist Senators, and ended with her personal story of benefiting from busing, a policy she criticized Biden for opposing.  

Biden shot back claiming Harris’ comments were “a mischaracterization of my position across the board.” Biden said he opposed busing mandated by the Department of Education but that he would have allowed localities to bus students should they choose to do so.  

Facts First: Biden was a vocal opponent of federally-mandated busing. His remarks in the 1970s broadly denounced busing programs claiming they were bad for local communities. 

In 1978, Biden co-sponsored and strongly advocated for legislation that would have limited the ability of federal judges to compel school districts to integrate public schools by busing black students to white areas and vice versa.

He particularly solicited the support of segregationist Mississippi Democrat James Eastland, writing in 1977, “I want you to know that I very much appreciate your help during this week’s committee meeting in attempting to bring my anti-busing legislation to a vote.”

Biden says he would allow busing under certain circumstances. In cases where a school system has been racially segregated by gerrymandering district lines or by other legalistic means, Biden said he supported desegregation by any legal means at hand – including busing.  

In 1975, Biden supported an amendment offered by Senator Jesse Helms that would have made busing much more difficult in all jurisdictions by prohibiting the Department of Health, Education and Welfare from collecting information needed to identify segregated school systems.

However, neither piece of legislation would have explicitly prohibited Berkeley from choosing to bus black students into majority white schools or vice versa. Berkeley was one of the first cities to adopt a busing program in 1968.

After the Helms amendment failed, Biden offered a provision that would’ve prevented federal funds from being used to require any school to assign students or teachers by race.  

Biden said he supported school integration by other means but opposed busing because he thought it had a negative impact on communities. 

Fact check: Kamala Harris on requests to detain undocumented immigrants

Sen. Kamala Harris said that she told local sheriffs in California when she was the state’s attorney general that they could buck certain requests to detain undocumented immigrants made by federal immigration officials — a progressive policy that is still fought for today by immigration activists.  

Facts First: This is true, though some liberals in California said she was slow to come around. 

In 2012, Harris issued an “information bulletin” to law enforcement agencies in the state saying that they were not required to fulfill detainer requests from US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE.

At the time, the American Civil Liberties Union wrote that her statement “should finally put to bed any lingering doubt that immigration detainers are voluntary requests” and noted that a better solution would be the passage of statewide legislation.

Andrew Yang didn't get much speaking time — but he says he got to introduce himself to millions

Democratic presidential hopeful Andrew Yang didn’t get much speaking time on stage tonight, but he said he thinks he still accomplished his mission.

Yang said he’s hoping to make his case again to Americans at the next debates, hosted by CNN, in July.

“I’ll have plenty of other opportunities,” he said. “Obviously, I would have loved more questions.”

He added that he felt the questions directed at him were “sparse.”

After debate, Bennet says he thinks he can win

Democratic presidential candidate Michael Bennet, speaking reporters after the debate, said he thinks he can win the nomination and beat President Trump.

Bennet just stepped off the stage following a two-hour debate with nine other Democratic candidates who also sought to make their case to Americans.

He was one of the top five candidates with the most speaking time at the end of the debate. (Bennet spoke in total for about 7:59 minutes.)

Fact check: John Hickenlooper criticism of Green New Deal

Former Colorado governor John Hickenlooper criticized a liberal policy proposal saying, “If you look at the Green New Deal which I admire the sense of urgency and how important it is to do climate change, I’m a scientist, but we can’t promise every American a government job.” 

Facts First: This is almost true. While the Green New Deal does guarantee people jobs, it doesn’t specify they’d be government jobs.  

The Green New Deal is a proposed bill that is more a list of ideas than a hyper detailed proposal.

This 14-page piece of legislation touches on a wide range of topics including cutting carbon emissions and switching power generation to 100% renewables. It also does promise everyone in the US a job, but it does not specify that it would be with the government.  

Specifically, the legislation says it is: “guaranteeing a job with a family-sustaining wage, adequate family and medical leave, paid vacations, and retirement security to all people of the United States.” 

The bill also promises workplace safety laws, paid vacations, family and medical leave and it offers discrimination protections.

Fact check: Bennet on top 0.1% wealth

Colorado Sen. Michael Bennet claimed that 160,000 families that make up the top 0.1% have the same wealth as the bottom 90%.  

Facts First: This is correct, according to one study.  

There are several ways to measure wealth in America, and none of them are perfect. However according to at least one analysis from economists, this statistic is true.

Emmanuel Saez and Gabriel Zucman at the University of California-Berkeley sent a letter to Massachusetts Democrat Elizabeth Warren – who often touts this comparison of wealth – with their estimate of how much revenue her ‘ultra wealth tax’ would generate. 

In the letter, they wrote that the 0.1 percent own about 20% of the nation’s wealth. The bottom 90% own about 25%.

Correction: This post has been updated to correct the bottom-line conclusion about the statistic Bennet cited.

Fact check: Gillibrand on migrant children dying in US custody

New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand claimed that seven migrant children have died in the US custody during the Trump administration.

“He’s torn apart the moral fabric of who we are. When he started separating children at the border with their parents. The fact that seven children have died in his custody,” Gillibrand said.

Facts First: Gillibrand is correct. 

At least seven children migrating to the US from the southern border have died in US custody since 2018, according to news reports and government statements.

Here's who talked the most tonight

Why should you vote for them? Here's what the candidates said in their final pitch

The Democratic candidates just made their pitch to American voters, wrapping up the two-night debate event in Miami.

Here’s what they said:

  • Eric Swalwell: “This is a can-do generation that will end climate chaos. This is the generation that will solve student loan debt and this the generation that will say enough is enough and end gun violence. This generation demands bold solutions. That’s why I’m running for president.”
  • Michael Bennet: “The ability for one generation to build to the next is now severely at risk in the United States especially among children living in poverty like the one I used to work for in the Denver public. That’s why I’m running for president.”
  • Kirstin Gillibrand: “Now is not the time to play it safe. Now is not the time to be afraid of firsts. We need a president who will take on the big challenges even if she stands alone.”
  • Kamala Harris: “One, we need a nominee who has the ability to prosecute the case against four more years of Donald Trump, and I will do that.”
  • Bernie Sanders: “I suspect people love the country who are watching this debate are saying, ‘These are good people, they have great ideas.’ But how come nothing really changes?”
  • Joe Biden: “I’m going to lead this country because I think it’s important that we restore the soul of this nation. I think this President has ripped it out. This is the only President in our history who has equated racist and white supremacist with ordinary decent people. He is the only President who has engaged and embraced dictators and thumbed a nose at our allies. I’m secondly running for president because I think we need to restore the backbone of America.”
  • Pete Buttigieg: “I’m running because the decisions we make in the next three or four years are going to decide how the next 30 or 40 go. And when I get to the current age of the current president in the year 2055 I want to be able to look back on these years and say my generation delivered climate solutions, racial equality and an end to endless war.”
  • Andrew Yang: “I can build a much broader coalition to beat Donald Trump. It is not left, it is not right. It is forward. And that is where I’ll take the country in 2020.”
  • John Hickenlooper: “You don’t need big government to do big things. I know that because I’m the one person up here who’s actually done the big Progressive things everyone else is talking about. If we turn towards socialism, we run the risk of helping to re-elect the worst president in American history.”
  • Marianne Williamson: “I have an idea about Donald Trump. Donald Trump is not going to be beaten just by insider politics talk. He’s not going to be beaten by someone with plans. He’s going to be beaten by an idea who has an idea what the man has done.”

Fact check: Pete Buttigieg on China tariff costs

Pete Buttigieg claimed that because of President Donald Trump’s tariffs on China, “Americans are going to pay on average $800 more a year.”

Facts First: Buttigieg is slightly underestimating the cost of Trump’s China tariffs, according to one paper published by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.

The study found that Trump’s latest tariff escalation – which raised the rate from 10% to 25% on $200 billion of Chinese goods – could cost a typical household $831 a year.

That’s in addition to the $414 cost that could be incurred by the earlier rounds of tariffs imposed during 2018.

Fact check: Pete Buttigieg on undocumented immigrants paying taxes

Pete Buttigieg said: “There are undocumented immigrants in my community who pay sales taxes and pay property taxes directly or indirectly.”   

Facts First: It’s true that undocumented immigrants pay taxes.  

Undocumented immigrants pay billions in taxes each year, even though they do not have Social Security numbers. They file using what’s known as an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number.  

“Most experts believe that the vast majority of tax returns filed with ITINs today are filed by undocumented immigrants,” according to the Bipartisan Policy Center, a Washington-based think-tank. That method is also used by some noncitizens who are legal immigrants to the US.    

In 2015, according to the IRS, 4.35 million tax returns were filed using ITINs, accounting for more than $13.6 billion in taxes. 

Sanders calls out Biden on Iraq war vote

Moments after Biden touted his role in pulling troops out of Iraq during the Obama administration, Sanders reminded the former vice president of his role in the decision to send them there.

Both candidates talked about de-escalating or ending America’s ongoing conflicts. Biden said combat troops should be removed from Afghanistan, calling it “long overdue.”

Sanders discussed his efforts, including his spearheading of the War Powers Act’s passage, to end US involvement in Saudi Arabia’s intervention in Yemen, which he described as “the most horrific humanitarian disaster on earth.”

Here's what the candidates say would be the first issue they'd tackle if elected president

NBC’s Chuck Todd asked the candidates what would be the first issue they’d tackle if elected president.

Here’s what they said:

  • Eric Swalwell: Ending gun violence
  • Michael Bennet: Climate change and the lack of economic mobility
  • Kirstin Gillibrand: Passing a family bill of rights
  • Kamala Harris: Passing a tax cut for the middle class and working families, DACA and guns
  • Bernie Sanders: Take on the special interest
  • Joe Biden: Defeat Donald Trump
  • Pete Buttigieg: Fix our democracy
  • Andrew Yang: Pass the “Freedom Dividend”
  • John Hickenlooper: Collaborative approach on climate change
  • Marianne Williamson: Call the Prime Minister of New Zealand and tell her, “the United States of America is going to be the best place in the world for a child to grow up.”

Fact check: Eric Swalwell quoted Joe Biden on passing the torch to a new generation of Americans

In arguing for a candidate from a new generation to be the Democratic nominee, California Rep. Eric Swalwell quoted Joe Biden in 1987 at the California Democratic convention. 

Facts First: Biden did say this February 3, 1987, at the California Democratic convention and it was a part of his stump speech during his 1988 presidential campaign and in appearances during the previous year. He was quoting John F. Kennedy and talking about how it made him feel at the time. 

“Remember how you felt when you heard let the word go forth, from this time and place, that the torch has been passed. Passed to a new generation of Americans,” Biden said, quoting President John F. Kennedy’s first inaugural address.

Later, Biden concluded by saying, “it’s time to be on the march again. It’s time to get America moving again and as the man who will speak to you later today will tell you quite simply, our time has come.” 

Watch that speech here.

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