Justice Coney Barrett asks why GOP states didn't "strong-arm MOHELA and say you've got to pursue this suit?"

Supreme Court considers fate of Biden's student loan relief plan

By Elise Hammond, Tierney Sneed, Katie Lobosco and Adrienne Vogt, CNN

Updated 4:47 p.m. ET, February 28, 2023
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11:59 a.m. ET, February 28, 2023

Justice Coney Barrett asks why GOP states didn't "strong-arm MOHELA and say you've got to pursue this suit?"

From CNN's Tierney Sneed

United States Supreme Court Associate Justice Amy Coney Barrett poses for an official portrait at the East Conference Room of the Supreme Court building on October 7, 2022 in Washington, DC.
United States Supreme Court Associate Justice Amy Coney Barrett poses for an official portrait at the East Conference Room of the Supreme Court building on October 7, 2022 in Washington, DC. (Alex Wong/Getty Images)

Nebraska Solicitor General James Campbell, who is representing all the GOP states suing over the debt relief program, received tough questions from several justices about whether the states have really proved that they would be harmed by the loan forgiveness program in a way that would warrant a court intervention.

That line of questions included a grilling from Justice Amy Coney Barrett, who zeroed in on how MOHELA — the Missouri-created entity that services loans in the state and which Missouri is pointed to as giving it standing — could have opted to challenge in court the debt relief policy but hasn't.

"If MOHELA is an arm of the state, why didn't you just strong-arm MOHELA and say you've got to pursue this suit," Barrett asked Campbell. He said that was a matter of state politics and Justice Elena Kagan jumped in to note that even to get records from MOHELA, Missouri has to use a state open records law.

Before Barrett's inquiries, Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson also pressed Campbell on whether the supposed harms the loan forgiveness program was causing MOHELA really established standing for Missouri, as did Kagan, who highlighted MOHELA's absence from the lawsuit.

11:48 a.m. ET, February 28, 2023

The Covid-19 eviction policy case is coming up in the student debt arguments. Here's why

From CNN's Tierney Sneed and Elise Hammond

Activists and students protest in front of the Supreme Court during a rally for student debt cancellation in Washington, DC, on February 28.
Activists and students protest in front of the Supreme Court during a rally for student debt cancellation in Washington, DC, on February 28. (Andrew Caballero-Reynolds/AFP/Getty Images)

A case concerning a moratorium that had been placed on evictions during the Covid-19 pandemic keeps coming up in Tuesday's student debt relief policy arguments. 

US Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar tried to draw a distinction between the two cases while answering a series of questions from Justice Brett Kavanaugh. She said the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention eviction case brought up concerns of an agency acting "outside the core of its domain," but that is not what is happening with the Department of Education.

"This is the student loan program. That falls within the wheelhouse of the Secretary of Education. He exercises comprehensive authority over that program. These are federal loans between the federal government and student loan borrowers, so this is a situation where the secretary is really acting within the core of his expertise and his authority," Prelogar said.

Those challenging the student debt forgiveness say there are parallels between the two cases, while the Biden administration argues the disputes are distinct. 

The eviction moratorium case did not even get a full hearing before the Supreme Court. What has been cited by President Joe Biden’s foes is a per curium order — an unsigned order from the Supreme Court that blocked the CDC policy that tenants could not get evicted while the moratorium was in place.

The case was seen as a forerunner to the Supreme Court’s full-scale endorsement — in a case handed down in June — of the so-called major questions doctrine, which says that if Congress is going to give the agency the power to make policy on a matter of significant political or economic consequence, lawmakers can be expected to say so with specificity in the laws that they pass. 

“If a federally imposed eviction moratorium is to continue, Congress must specifically authorize it,” the court said in the August 2021 order. The liberals on the court at the time dissented.

Opponents of the student debt program say that Tuesday’s case arises in similar circumstances as the eviction moratorium dispute: an executive branch agency allegedly using the pandemic as a pretext to go beyond the authority that Congress has given it to enact a major policy change. 

12:04 p.m. ET, February 28, 2023

Justice Jackson raises concern about how federal government can operate if states can easily sue

From CNN's Tierney Sneed

Associate Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson poses for the official photo at the Supreme Court in Washington, DC on October 7, 2022.
Associate Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson poses for the official photo at the Supreme Court in Washington, DC on October 7, 2022. (Olivier Douliery/AFP/Getty Images)

Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson gave US Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar the opportunity to stress how a ruling that said the states had standing in this case could hamper the federal government's ability to operate.

"I guess I'm concerned that we're going to have a problem in terms of the federal government's ability to operate," the justice said. "So my question is, is this a legitimate concern and should we be thinking in cases like this, about that type of concern as we ponder whether to expand our standing doctrines?"

Prelogar agreed that it was a "legitimate concern." She noted that past things the court has said about standing and how "the judiciary doesn't sit as a roving commission to rule on the legality of either Congress's enactments or the executive's implementation of those enactments."

11:46 a.m. ET, February 28, 2023

Kavanaugh: Mistakes have been made in court when "deferring to assertions of executive or emergency power"

From CNN's Tierney Sneed

United States Supreme Court Associate Justice Brett Kavanaugh poses for an official portrait at the East Conference Room of the Supreme Court building on October 7, 2022 in Washington, DC.
United States Supreme Court Associate Justice Brett Kavanaugh poses for an official portrait at the East Conference Room of the Supreme Court building on October 7, 2022 in Washington, DC. (Alex Wong/Getty Images)

Justice Brett Kavanaugh, in comments to US Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar, suggested he saw the student debt case existing in a history of the court deciding whether it would defer to an executive branch claim that a national emergency warranted aggressive unilateral action.

The Biden administration is arguing that the national emergency presented by the Covid-19 pandemic — and the economic disruption the pandemic wrought — justified the education secretary canceling the student loans of certain debtors.

"Some of the biggest mistakes in the court's history were deferring to assertions of executive or emergency power," Kavanaugh said. "Some of the finest moments in the court's history were pushing back against presidential assertions of emergency power, and that's continued not just in the Korean War, but post-9/11, in some of the cases there."

He asked Prelogar to explain to the court "how we should think about our role in assertion of presidential emergency power, given the court's history. "

Prelogar returned to a theme that she has brought up repeatedly in Tuesday's arguments: that there is distinction between an executive action that regulates people's conduct versus an action that deals with the doling out of government benefits.

11:41 a.m. ET, February 28, 2023

Justice Clarence Thomas questions solicitor general on loan forgiveness versus grants under Congress' authority

From CNN's Adrienne Vogt

Justice Clarence Thomas questioned US Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar about the distinction between the Biden administration's student loan debt forgiveness program and grants that Congress needs to appropriate.

"There's some discussion in the briefs .... that this is in effect a cancellation of a debt, that's really what we're talking about, and that as a cancellation of $400 billion in debt, in effect this is a grant of $400 billion and it runs headlong into Congress' appropriations authority," Thomas said.

Prelogar said that implementing the debt relief program doesn't require that any money be drawn from the Treasury, so it doesn't strictly raise an appropriations issue.

She also said while loan forgiveness would "of course" result in cancellation of a measure of debt for borrowers, she doesn't "think that that is materially different from the kind of effects you can see from other types of authority that's long been exercised under the HEROES Act."

Thomas said he didn't think she fully explained why you could not argue that the education secretary could just grant $400 billion — which would require appropriations from Congress.

"The argument is that you are in effect doing that without appropriations from Congress," Thomas said.

Prelogar gave an example of relief in periods of extended deferment for soldiers fighting abroad, in which the government has paid interest on loans.

"That's exactly what Congress intended under this authority; it's to make those changes to the program in direct response to and in direct proportion to the situation the secretary confronts that will otherwise leave that borrower worse off," she said.

11:51 a.m. ET, February 28, 2023

Nebraska's solicitor general is now arguing for the states

From CNN's Ariane de Vogue

Nebraska’s Solicitor General James A. Campbell is now speaking at the podium before the nine justices after US solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar wrapped her arguments on behalf of the Biden administration.

Campbell is representing the six states that say they would be harmed financially if President Joe Biden's student loan forgiveness program goes into effect.

He is expected to offer several theories to explain why the states will be injured by the plan. Most of his theories revolve around the potential of lost tax revenue. He's also expected to stress that the plan amounts to an unlawful attempt to erase an estimated $430 billion of federal student loan debt under the guise of the pandemic.

11:41 a.m. ET, February 28, 2023

Chief Justice Roberts: "This is a case that presents extraordinarily serious important issues" for Congress' role

From CNN's Tierney Sneed

Chief Justice John Roberts made clear that he saw the student debt forgiveness as an important opportunity for the court to further flesh out its "Major Questions Doctrine."

"We take very seriously the idea of separation of powers and that power should be divided to prevent its abuse," Roberts told US Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar. He said that the case reminded him of a decision from the Trump administration where the court blocked Trump's efforts to end the "Dreamers" program for young undocumented immigrants brought to the United States as minors.

"I just wonder, given the posture of the case and given our historic concern about the separation of powers, you would recognize at least that this is a case that presents extraordinarily serious important issues about the role of Congress and about the role that we should exercise in scrutinizing that, significant enough that the Major Questions Doctrine ought to be considered implicated?" Roberts said.

Remember: Under the “Major Questions Doctrine," if an agency acts in a way that could have major political or economic implications, it must have the authority of Congress. The states are saying here that essentially, the college debt relief plan is too big for the Biden administration to use the authority in its citing.

11:41 a.m. ET, February 28, 2023

Justice Gorsuch brings up question of fairness for Americans who don't have student loans or paid them already

From CNN's Katie Lobosco

Justice Neil Gorsuch asked whether the Biden administration considered the cost to people who are not eligible for the proposed student loan forgiveness program because they don't have student loans.

The plaintiffs said that missing from the government's analysis, Gorsuch said, is the "cost to other persons in terms of fairness, for example, people who've paid their loans... and people who are not eligible for loans in the first place."

More context: Americans who did not go to college or already paid off their student loans won’t see a direct benefit from Biden’s program, which the Congressional Budget Office has estimated will cost $400 billion over time. Also, a one-time cancellation of federal student loan debt does nothing to bring down the cost of college for future borrowers.

About 81% of households who earn less than $125,000 a year don’t have student loan debt, according to an analysis done last year by Matthew Chingos, vice president of education data and policy at the Urban Institute. He based the estimation on the 2019 Survey of Consumer Finances conducted by the Federal Reserve.

11:23 a.m. ET, February 28, 2023

Why Gorsuch is bringing up a case about questions on the 2020 census

From CNN's Tierney Sneed

In this April 23, 2019 photo, protesters gather outside the U.S. Supreme Court as the court hears oral arguments in the Commerce vs. New York case in Washington, DC. The case highlights a question about U.S. citizenship included by the Trump administration in the proposed 2020 census.
In this April 23, 2019 photo, protesters gather outside the U.S. Supreme Court as the court hears oral arguments in the Commerce vs. New York case in Washington, DC. The case highlights a question about U.S. citizenship included by the Trump administration in the proposed 2020 census. (Win McNamee/Getty Images)

Justice Neil Gorsuch brought up the court's decision in 2019 that blocked former President Donald Trump's plans to add a citizenship question to the census. Chief Justice John Roberts joined the court's then-four liberals to rule in favor of the question's challengers and that ruling is one of the cases that the opponents to student debt relief are citing to back their standing arguments.

Gorsuch noted Tuesday that the court said in the census case, that the potential undercount of the citizenship question would cause New York established standing for New York to bring that case, because an undercount would have cost New York federal funding and a loss in other benefits.

"That kind of knock-on effect was sufficient to constitute standing in that case, and I just like to get your thoughts on how you'd have us distinguish that?" Gorsuch asked.

Prelogar said that in the census case the injury that would have been caused by an undercount was more direct, and that in the student debt case, the financial injuries the states were claiming were "self inflicted."

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