Chair of submersibles committee says he voiced concerns about OceanGate design and claims with CEO

June 23, 2023 - Missing Titanic sub crew killed after 'catastrophic implosion'

By Helen Regan, Adam Renton, Sana Noor Haq, Hannah Strange, Aditi Sangal and Tori B. Powell, CNN

Updated 9:00 p.m. ET, June 23, 2023
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3:07 p.m. ET, June 23, 2023

Chair of submersibles committee says he voiced concerns about OceanGate design and claims with CEO

From CNN's Kristina Sgueglia

An undated photo of the OceanGate Titan submersible.
An undated photo of the OceanGate Titan submersible. From OceanGate/File

The design of the Titan submersible “demanded special extra attention,” according to William Kohnen, chair of the Marine Technology Society’s manned underwater vehicles committee, adding that he had conversations with the late OceanGate CEO to express his concerns about the company's approach to submersibles.

Kohnen, who is also president of the Hydrospace Group, said he made requests to OceanGate to make its website more transparent to spell out that the Titan design was “experimental” and “not certified.” They ultimately changed it, he said.

Speaking to Anderson Cooper on "CNN This Morning," Kohnen said the carbon fiber hull “demanded special extra attention just because that had never been done before.” It meant an “additional effort and probably quite a bit of extra testing to get passed through that certification process,” he said.

The small community of submersible experts had numerous conversations with the late OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush, Kohnen said, and they issued a letter essentially saying, "you are going really, really fast over here and you’re ignoring some of the knowledge base that we have for these things." 

Kohnen said Rush's response amounted to “the existing regulations are stifling innovation and it’s too slow, and we have a better method.”

“Developing an alternative method of self-certification — it’s not forgiving,” Kohnen continued.

He called for full disclosure in the industry. “Just tell the public this is not certified, this is experimental, and then it leaves some of the decisions to people to make," he added.

CNN's Nic Anderson contributed to this post.

9:41 a.m. ET, June 23, 2023

Deep-sea tourism should pause, says scientist who survived a Titanic submersible scare in 2000

Dr. Michael Guillen, a scientist, journalist and author who was the first TV correspondent to report from the Titanic, said he thinks ocean tourism needs to be paused following the deaths of the five people aboard the Titan submersible.

Guillen survived a close call in 2000, when he says the submersible he was in got caught in an underwater current, causing a collision with the propeller of the Titanic wreck.

He said there are two main reasons for taking a pause, based on his experience.

"Number one, the sea is dangerous. This is not a playground. The ocean is restless and I think of it when I was looking at the North Atlantic waters. They're dark, they're cold; they just want to swallow you up if you make the tiniest little mistake," he said in an interview on CNN.

"Second of all, what I took away from my trip down there was that this isn't just a shipwreck. I went down there thinking I'm just going to report on a shipwreck, but what hit me — especially in that moment of prayer, and it came home to me — that people lost their lives. Men, women and children. More than 1,000 of them. This is their final resting place. This is sacred ground," he said.

"I think we should pause, figure out what happened so we can fix it in the future, but also think of the danger and think of the sacredness of this site. It's not a joyride. It's not a Disneyland destination," he added.

9:38 a.m. ET, June 23, 2023

Here's a map of the area where the Titanic-bound sub went missing

The Titan submersible that went missing Sunday during a trip to view the wreckage of the Titanic suffered a "catastrophic implosion" and killed five people on board, officials said Thursday.

The submersible had originally embarked on a journey into the depths of the sea off Canada's coast.

Titan's ultimate destination was the Titanic's wreckage, which sits at the bottom of the ocean nearly 13,000 feet below the surface southeast of Newfoundland.

As authorities now seek to better understand what went wrong with the sub, they're dealing with an "incredibly complex operating environment on the sea floor, over two miles beneath the surface," a US Coast Guard official said Thursday.

Here's a look at a map of the area:

3:37 p.m. ET, June 23, 2023

Nargeolet will be remembered for his deep connection with people and underwater exploration, stepson says

From Zenebou Sylla

Paul-Henri Nargeolet poses next to a miniature version of the Titanic in Paris in 2013.
Paul-Henri Nargeolet poses next to a miniature version of the Titanic in Paris in 2013. Joël Saget/AFP/Getty Images

Explorer Paul-Henri Nargeolet, who was aboard the Titanic-bound submarine that imploded, will be remembered for his passion for his family and underwater exploration, his stepson John Paschall told CNN.

Paschall said Nargeolet was "someone that you instantly connected with and loved, and shared so many great stories with," and his fascination with the underwater expedition of the Titanic intrigued him to share the stories of the past with people. 

"There's just so many things that he wanted to uncover and share with people about the Titanic by pulling up those artifacts and providing so much information to people," Paschall told CNN's Anderson Cooper. "The Titanic is something that I know he'll forever be connected with it, with his work."

Paschall said Nargeolet was a "big loveable guy who [was] a prankster, but he cared so much about his family and everything he did in life."

Paschall said he was fortunate to have Nargeolet as a stepfather and even celebrated special moments together: Nargeolet and his mother, who died of cancer, once drove 16 hours overnight from Chicago to New York to watch him graduate.

He last saw Nargeolet in May and planned to meet with his stepfather in early July to connect. He said he didn't think twice when Nargeolet set out on one of many expeditions, where he would later lose his life.

"He's been on so many different deep dives that I didn't bat an eye, I just said okay, great, have fun, and be safe and I'll see you in July," Paschall told Cooper. "It was one of those things I never asked safety questions and all that stuff, it was just okay I trust that he knows what's best and I never thought twice about it."
8:55 a.m. ET, June 23, 2023

Officials are working to establish a timeline for the submersible's fatal voyage. Catch up on the latest

From CNN staff

The search for more debris from the Titan submersible continues Friday as officials try to piece together a timeline of the vessel's final moments.

On Thursday, authorities said the five passengers on the sub that was diving 13,000 feet to view the wreckage of the Titanic on the ocean floor died in a "catastrophic implosion," bookending an extraordinary five-day international search operation.

Here's what we know:

  • The Polar Prince will return to port: The vessel used to transport the Titan submersible to the site of the Titanic wreckage, will return to St. John's, Canada, either late Friday or early Saturday morning, a source with Horizon Maritime, the company that owns the ship, told CNN. Marine traffic-tracking sites show a line of several other ships also headed back to St. John's this morning.
  • Immediate next steps: As officials work to determine the timeline and circumstances of the accident, remotely operated vehicles will remain on the scene and continue to gather information from the sea floor, US Coast Guard Rear Adm. John Mauger said Thursday. They will map out the vessel’s debris field, which is more than 2 miles deep in the North Atlantic Ocean, Mauger said. It will take time to determine a specific timeline of events in the "incredibly complex" case of the Titan's failure, he added. The Coast Guard official said the agency will eventually have more information about what went wrong and its assessment of the emergency response.
  • What is a catastrophic explosion? An underwater implosion refers to the sudden inward collapse of the vessel. At those depths there is a tremendous amount of pressure on the submersible and even the tiniest structural defect could be disastrous, experts said. At the depths of the Titanic wreck, the implosion would have happened in a fraction of a millisecond. Former naval officer Aileen Marty said the implosion would have happened before anyone "inside would even realize that there was a problem."
  • Discovered debris: The remotely operated vehicle found "five different major pieces of debris" from the Titan submersible, according to Paul Hankins, the US Navy's director of salvage operations and ocean engineering. The debris was "consistent with the catastrophic loss of the pressure chamber" and, in turn, a "catastrophic implosion," he said. As of now, there does not appear to be a connection between the banging noises picked up by sonar earlier this week and where the debris was found. So far, they have located the Titan’s nose cone and one end of its pressure hulls in a large debris field, and the other end of the pressure hull in a second, smaller debris field. 
  • Timing: The US Navy detected an acoustic signature consistent with an implosion on Sunday and relayed that information to the commanders leading the search effort, a senior official told CNN. But the sound was determined to be “not definitive,” the official said. Mauger said rescuers had sonar buoys in the water for at least the last 72 hours and had "not detected any catastrophic events." Listening devices set up during the search also did not record any sign of an implosion, he added.

  • Who was on board: Tour organizer OceanGate Expeditions said Hamish Harding, Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman Dawood, Paul-Henri Nargeolet and OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush died in the sub. They "shared a distinct spirit of adventure," the company said in a statement.
  • Reactions: French diver Nargeolet was an “incredibly talented iconic legendary – the greatest deep diver that the world has ever known," his friend Alfred Hagen told CNN as he recalled a previous trip on which he descended with Nargeolet in the Titan sub to the Titanic wreckage. Engro Corporation Limited, of which Shahzada Dawood was vice chairman, said the company grieves the loss of him and his son. The British Asian Trust said Friday it is “deeply saddened” by the death of its trustee Shahzada Dawood and his son. The governments of Pakistan and the United Kingdom also offered condolences. The University of Strathclyde, in Glasgow, Scotland, said it is “profoundly saddened” by the death of its student Suleman Dawood.
  • Similarities with famous shipwreck: James Cameron, who directed the hit 1997 movie “Titanic” and has himself made 33 dives to the wreckage, said he's worried the Titan submersible's implosion will have a negative impact on citizen explorers. He also said he saw "a parallel" with the Titanic due to "unheeded warnings about a sub that was not certified."
8:19 a.m. ET, June 23, 2023

The ship that helped launch the Titan submersible will return to port later tonight or tomorrow 

From CNN's Miguel Marquez and Aaron Cooper 

The Polar Prince, a vessel used to transport the Titan submersible to the site of the Titanic wreckage, is departing the area today.

It will return to St. John's, Canada, either late Friday or early Saturday morning, a source with Horizon Maritime, the company that owns the ship, told CNN.

Marine traffic-tracking sites show a line of several other ships also headed back to St. John's this morning.

3:37 p.m. ET, June 23, 2023

UK prime minister Rishi Sunak's thoughts are with loved ones of those killed on Titan sub, spokesperson says

From CNN's Sharon Braithwaite in London

UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak speaks at a conference in London on June 21.
UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak speaks at a conference in London on June 21. Henry Nicholls/WPA Pool/Getty Images

UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak's thoughts are "very much" with the loved ones of those that perished on the Titan submersible, his spokesperson said Friday, according to the UK Press Association. 

“His thoughts are very much with the loved ones of those who have died in this tragic incident and they have been through an unimaginably difficult ordeal in the last few days," the spokesperson said, adding that the Foreign Office is "in touch with those families to provide support.” 

UK Foreign Secretary James Cleverly on Thursday expressed his condolences and said the UK government is closely supporting the families of the British citizens who died on board the Titan submersible. 

Three British citizens were onboard: Hamish Harding, Shahzada Dawood and his son, Suleman.

7:54 a.m. ET, June 23, 2023

OceanGate co-founder cautions rushing to judgment over catastrophic loss of submersible

From CNN's Kristine Sgueglia

OceanGate co-founder Guillermo Sohnlein cautioned rushing to judgment without the data following the catastrophic loss of the submersible.

“There are teams on site that are still going to be collecting data for the next few days, weeks, maybe months, and it’s going to be a long time before we know exactly what happened down there,” he told CNN Friday. “So I would encourage us to hold off on speculation until we have more data to go on.”

Sohnlein left the company in 2013 and was not involved with the voyage or the development of the Titan submersible. He still maintains minority ownership of OceanGate.

He added, “safety was the number one priority” for himself and CEO Stockton Rush who perished along with four others on board.

“He was a very strong risk manager, and I believe that he believed that every innovation that he created — whether technologically or within the dive operations — was to both expand the capability of humanity exploring the oceans while also improving the safety of those doing it,” he said.

3:36 p.m. ET, June 23, 2023

Friend of Nargeolet mourns loss and recalls previous dive trip to the Titanic with explorer

From CNN's Kristina Sgueglia

Paul-Henri Nargeolet, director of a deep ocean research project dedicated to the Titanic, poses inside the new exhibition dedicated to the sunken ship, at 'Paris Expo', on May 31, 2013, in Paris, France.
Paul-Henri Nargeolet, director of a deep ocean research project dedicated to the Titanic, poses inside the new exhibition dedicated to the sunken ship, at 'Paris Expo', on May 31, 2013, in Paris, France. Joel Saget/AFP/Getty Images

A friend of Paul Henri Nargeolet, who was aboard the Titan submersible that imploded over the weekend, described the explorer as an “incredibly talented iconic legendary – the greatest deep diver that the world has ever known."

Speaking to Anderson Cooper on CNN This Morning on Friday, Alfred Hagen recalled a previous trip on which he descended with Nargeolet in the Titan sub to the Titanic wreckage.

When descending, Hagen said the vessel is essentially in a “free fall” and when it reached the bottom, crewmembers had to “find the Titanic,” the bow and stern of which he describes are a “considerable distance apart."

The experience was like “flying almost blind in a world far beyond the reach of lights,” he said.

It was a “world of perpetual midnight, and then suddenly if you’re lucky you see the ship appear out of the darkness,” he added.

“I don’t regret going, I do regret that I won’t be able to go again with PH."

When they reached the bottom, he said, “PH would take over flying."

“As far as the safety concerns, of course you were concerned, we all understood the risk we were taking.”

“There was a moment when the current kind of pushed us in closer than we intended and we got stuck and PH was able to maneuver us out and of course at that moment the thought flashes through your mind of – if we don’t get loose this could be it, but I was – that’s a risk that you accept,” Hagen said.

“And I’m tired of people coming in now to insult the high achievers and disparage wealthy people that want to break trail for the rest of humanity.

“These are risk takers, risk takers have always driven humanity forward and taking risk is what distinguishes us as men, and it’s the divine spark."

As for Nargeolet, Hagen fondly recalled him being “equally at ease on the deck of a ship in a hurricane or sitting conversing in a Parisian café.”

Hagen said the loss of his friend had “broken my heart that a man of his dynamism will no longer shine his light in this world.”