Trump testifies in E. Jean Carroll defamation trial

Trump testifies in E. Jean Carroll defamation trial

By Lauren del Valle, Kara Scannell, Allison Morrow and Dan Berman, CNN

Updated 6:00 p.m. ET, January 25, 2024
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5:30 p.m. ET, January 25, 2024

These are the key takeaways from the last day of testimony and Trump's brief time on the stand

From CNN's Gregory Krieg, Lauren del Valle, Kara Scannell and Allison Morrow

Donald Trump returned to a Manhattan federal courthouse on Thursday where he took the stand for what was ultimately less than five minutes — including multiple admonishments from Judge Lewis Kaplan — as he seeks to avoid a multimillion-dollar jury verdict against him in the civil defamation trial.

The trial centers on Trump’s 2019 comments about E. Jean Carroll, the writer who last year won a civil verdict over her claim Trump sexually assaulted her in the mid-1990s and then defamed her when she first publicly accused him. Carroll is seeking at least $10 million.

Closing arguments are scheduled for Friday morning and the jury of nine could have the case by lunchtime.

Here’s what to know from Thursday:

  • Trump testifies: After days of back-and-forth teases over whether he would appear, Trump was on the witness stand for mere minutes Thursday. The defense’s questions were effectively pre-cleared by the judge, as Trump was not allowed to re-litigate the verdict from last year. He stood by his previous denial of Carroll's sexual assault accusation and said that he wanted to defend himself, his family and the presidency.
  • Trump plays the victim: Perhaps more interesting than anything he said in court — before or during his testimony — was Trump’s decision to show up in the first place. He was not bound by the court to speak at or attend the trial, at which cameras are not allowed, but did so repeatedly. His appearance on Thursday amounted to another opportunity, in Trump’s estimation, to advance the narrative that he is the victim of a broad conspiracy designed to block his return to office and damage his personal and business reputation.
  • Team Trump attacks Carroll: Trump attorney Alina Habba sought to undermine Carroll’s claims that her safety was at risk as a result of the former president’s disparaging statements about her. While questioning Carroll’s longtime friend Carol Martin, a former television reporter, Habba pointed to texts in which Carroll wrote to Martin that she had no security concerns at the time. The text messages are key to the defense’s strategy of trying to show that Carroll has exaggerated her claims.
  • Carroll's lawyers play the tapes: Carroll’s attorneys played videos for the jury in which Trump attested to his personal wealth and another where the former president disparaged Carroll and denied knowing the writer. Carroll’s lawyers also played clips from earlier depositions and media statements by Trump in which he disparages Carroll as “sick,” threatens to sue her attorney, and rants about the “hoaxes” that have been played on him.

Catch up on all of the key takeaways from the trial on Thursday ahead of closing arguments.

4:38 p.m. ET, January 25, 2024

What it was like in the courtroom for Trump's tense testimony

From CNN's Kara Scannell inside the courtroom

Donald Trump says, "I never met the woman," to Judge Lewis Kaplan as his lawyer Alina Habba stands on January 25, in this courtroom sketch.
Donald Trump says, "I never met the woman," to Judge Lewis Kaplan as his lawyer Alina Habba stands on January 25, in this courtroom sketch. Jane Rosenberg/Reuters

Before Donald Trump took the stand, his lawyer Alina Habba and Judge Lewis Kaplan had a 10-minute conversation about the scope of the former president's testimony.

In the middle of that discussion, Trump raised his voice and said unprompted, and out of nowhere, "I never met the woman. I do not know who this woman is. I was not at the trial. I don’t know who this woman is."

Kaplan told Trump to keep his voice down. As the judge asked Habba if her client was aware of the limits on his testimony, Trump leaned over to Habba, who was mid-answer and whispered.

Kaplan sternly told Trump he was interrupting the proceedings and it was not permitted.

At one point Habba consulted Susan Necheles, one of Trump’s criminal defense attorneys in the New York hush-money case, who was sitting in the well of the courtroom.

Thereafter, the jury was brought in and Habba called Trump as her witness. He walked past the jury – most of them had their heads down and only a few appeared to look at Trump.

Standing next to the witness stand, Trump raised his right hand and swore to give truthful testimony.

Seated, Trump answered the questions and stopped abruptly when the judge cut him off. When Carroll’s attorneys tried to ask Trump questions about the first trial, which he did not attend, his lawyers objected. Trump turned toward the jury and shook his head from side to side.

Unlike at the civil fraud trial where Trump gave meandering answers, attacked the judge and New York attorney general in the courtroom, and gave political speeches from the witness stand, he did not make ancillary comments while the jury was in the courtroom.

4:14 p.m. ET, January 25, 2024

Trump is expected back in court tomorrow

From CNN's Kristen Holmes

Former President Donald Trump is expected back in court in New York on Friday for the E. Jean Carroll defamation case, according to a source familiar with his plans. 

Trump briefly testified for roughly three minutes in his civil defamation trial Thursday.

 

2:26 p.m. ET, January 25, 2024

Defense rests after Trump's brief testimony

From CNN's Lauren del Valle

The defense rested after former President Donald Trump briefly answered questions from his attorney Alina Habba.

Judge Lewis Kaplan dismissed the jurors, instructing them to return Friday morning to hear closing arguments and said they'll likely have the case to begin deliberating by lunchtime.

3:36 p.m. ET, January 25, 2024

Trump stands by denial of Carroll's sexual assault accusation

From CNN's Lauren del Valle

Donald Trump testifies on January 25, in this courtroom sketch.
Donald Trump testifies on January 25, in this courtroom sketch. Elizabeth Williams/AP

Donald Trump stood by his denial of E. Jean Carroll's sexual assault accusation during his testimony Thursday.

Attorney Alina Habba asked him, “Do you stand by your testimony in the deposition?”

“100% yes,” Trump replied.

Habba then asked Trump, "Did you deny the allegation because Ms. Carroll made an accusation?

“That's exactly right. Yes I did," Trump said. "She said something that I considered a false accusation — totally false."

Judge Lewis Kaplan, however, cut Trump off, saying: "Everything after 'yes I did' is stricken."

2:44 p.m. ET, January 25, 2024

Trump said he "wanted to defend myself, my family and frankly, the presidency"

From CNN's Lauren del Valle

Former President Donald Trump attorney Alina Habba's final question to her client was: "Did you ever instruct anyone to hurt Ms. Carroll in your statements."

Trump replied: "No, I just wanted to defend myself, my family and frankly, the presidency."

2:18 p.m. ET, January 25, 2024

Donald Trump has taken the stand

From CNN's Lauren del Valle and Dan Berman

Former President Donald Trump has taken the stand in his own defense at the civil defamation trial in New York.

"The defense calls President Donald Trump," said his attorney Alina Habba.

It's an extraordinary moment for Trump, the front-runner for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination who faces multiple criminal trials this year, as well as ongoing civil litigation that threatens his business empire.

His testimony would be limited, as Judge Lewis Kaplan has ordered restrictions that Trump will not be allowed to testify that he didn’t assault E. Jean Carroll or that she lied about the rape allegation — since those questions are not before the jury.

3:59 p.m. ET, January 25, 2024

Trump joins effort to get Fulton County DA dismissed from 2020 election case over affair allegations

From CNN’s Holmes Lybrand

As the E. Jean Carroll trial continues to unfold, Donald Trump’s attorneys are joining calls for the dismissal of Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis in the 2020 election subversion case against the former president and his co-defendants in Georgia.

In a filing in Fulton County Superior Court Thursday, Trump’s attorneys joined an effort to dismiss the case brought by one of his co-defendants, who alleged in a previous court filing that Willis was engaged in a romantic relationship with the special prosecutor on the case and has benefitted financially when he took her on vacations. 

The filing also points to public comments Willis recently made defending her choice to select the lead prosecutor, Nathan Wade, arguing that she violated Georgia rules for prosecutors. 

"The motion filed today on behalf of President Trump seeks to hold District Attorney Willis legally accountable both for the misconduct alleged in a motion filed by Mr. Roman as well as her extrajudicial public statements falsely and intentionally injecting race into this case,” Trump’s attorney, Steve Sadow, wrote in a statement.

Trump’s attorneys claim that Willis made a “calculated effort to foment racial bias” against the defendants with her comments, which run the risk of prejudicing the public and prospective jurors. 

Read more about Trump's effort to get Willis dismissed from the case.

2:36 p.m. ET, January 25, 2024

Judge admonishes Trump for interruption

From CNN's Lauren del Valle

The back and forth about Donald Trump's testimony is getting more heated.

Trump attorney Alina Habba said she wants to ask the former president several questions, including having him confirm that he stands by all the testimony of his deposition and asking if he made the statements in response to E. Jean Carroll’s accusations

Trump interrupted Habba to say, "I never met the woman I don’t know who the woman is. I never met this woman.

Judge Lewis Kaplan admonished Trump: "I’m sorry Mr. Trump, you’re interrupting these proceedings by talking loudly while your attorney is talking, and that is not permitted." 

Kaplan and Habba continue to debate the questions she's allowed to ask.

"Ms. Habba I'll decide what he has a right to do, that's my job, not yours," the judge said.