Pecker testifies he thought Cohen and Trump should have bought Daniels' story

Testimony ends for the day in Trump hush money trial

By CNN's Jeremy Herb, Lauren del Valle and Brynn Gingras from the courthouse

Updated 9:03 p.m. ET, April 25, 2024
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12:35 p.m. ET, April 25, 2024

Pecker testifies he thought Cohen and Trump should have bought Daniels' story

Pecker is testifying more about why AMI, the National Enquirer's parents company, couldn't pay $120,000 for Daniels' story.

"I said, 'I don’t want the National Enquirer to be associated with a porn star,'" Pecker says on the stand, adding that with Walmart as a main distributor of the magazine, it would be very bad for AMI.

Steinglass then asked Pecker to explain why he sent Daniels' story to Michael Cohen.

Pecker says the story could be "very damaging" and the thought it could come off the market.

"If anyone was going to buy it, I thought Michael and Donald Trump should buy it," Pecker says.

12:39 p.m. ET, April 25, 2024

Pecker told National Enquirer editor they "can't pay 120k" for Daniels' story, texts show

Steinglass is now showing text messages between Pecker and former National Enquirer editor-in-chief Dylan Howard from October 2016.

On October 9, Howard texted Pecker: "Woman wants 120k. Has offers from Mail and GMA want her to talk and do lie detector live. I know the denials were made in the past - but this story is true. I can lock it on publication now to shut down the media chatter and we can assess next steps thereafter. OK?"

Pecker responded: "We can't pay 120k."

Howard then texted back: "Ok. They'd need to handle. Perhaps I call Michael and advise him and he can take it from there, and handle."

Later, Howard texted again: "Spoke to MC. All sorted. Now removed. No fingerprints. I'll recap with you face-to-face."

Earlier, Pecker explained that "no fingerprints" meant there was no paper trail. It meant "AMI would have no association with the story."

Pecker said he told Howard, "great work" after he said he had it sorted out.

12:11 p.m. ET, April 25, 2024

Pecker describes conversation with former National Enquirer editor about Daniels' story

Pecker is now testifying about his conversation with former National Enquirer editor-in-chief Dylan Howard about Daniels' story.

He's testifying that he was told that Daniels was "trying to sell a story that she had a sexual relationship with Donald Trump."

According to Pecker, Howard told him on the phone that they could acquire the story for $120,000 "if we make the decision right now."

12:10 p.m. ET, April 25, 2024

Prosecution moves onto questions about Stormy Daniels

Steinglass is now moving onto questions about Stormy Daniels.

“Do you know of someone named Stephanie Clifford?” Steinglass asks Pecker.

Pecker replies: "Stormy Daniels was a porn star." He adds they've never met in person.

12:00 p.m. ET, April 25, 2024

Pecker says he spoke with Cohen about "Access Hollywood" tape and its impact on the campaign

Pecker told prosecutors that he spoke with Cohen about the fallout from the "Access Hollywood" tape.

Cohen told Pecker that the tape was "very, very damaging to the campaign and everybody was very concerned."

Pecker said they were concerned "what impact it would have on the campaign."

12:04 p.m. ET, April 25, 2024

Pecker says he took down 2008 online story that referred to Trump as a "playboy man" after Cohen told him to

Pecker is saying that Cohen raised to him a posting on Radar Online, an online site owned by AMI, which referred to Trump as a "playboy man."

Pecker is testifying that Cohen told him he "should immediately take it down."

Pecker says he then told Dylan Howard, then executive editor of the National Enquirer, to remove the article immediately and notify Cohen.

The email from Howard to Cohen ends with, "I have deleted the text story completely. It no longer exists"

Pecker is saying Howard was following his instructions to remove the story from the Radar site.

The story in question was from October 27, 2008, according to the email Steinglass is showing that Howard sent to Cohen.

Pecker says that the email chain was also sent to Hope Hicks.

11:58 a.m. ET, April 25, 2024

Trump is scowling as prosecutors ask about "Access Hollywood" tape

Prosecutors have asked Pecker about the "Access Hollywood" tape that was released before the 2016 election.

Trump has his eyes closed, a scowl on his face as he listens to this line of questioning

11:56 a.m. ET, April 25, 2024

Pecker says "Access Hollywood" tape was "very embarrassing" to Trump's campaign

Pecker is now summarizing the "Access Hollywood" tape.

He says he recalls when the tape went public, saying "it was very embarrassing, very damaging to the campaign."

11:55 a.m. ET, April 25, 2024

Attorneys signal they will not be done with Pecker's testimony today

Attorneys signaled that they will not be done with Pecker's testimony today.

Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass said he had about two to three hours left. Trump attorney Emil Bove noted that there's "a lot more to come."

"We're not going to finish today," Bove said.

Judge Juan Merchan noted that he wasn't trying to rush Trump's side and they could have as much time as they wanted to cross.

Steinglass is resuming questioning of Pecker.