Prosecutors continue to argue that Trump is violating gag order with third day of testimony underway

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By CNN's Jeremy Herb, Lauren del Valle and Brynn Gingras from the courthouse

Updated 9:03 p.m. ET, April 25, 2024
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10:30 a.m. ET, April 25, 2024

Prosecutors continue to argue that Trump is violating gag order with third day of testimony underway

From CNN's Kaanita Iyer

Before key witness David Pecker — the former publisher of the National Enquirer — could take the stand this morning, prosecutors once again brought up Donald Trump's alleged violations of the gag order, this time arguing that the former president violated the order four times over the past three days.

These are the comments prosecutors pointed to:

  • Trump's interview with a Philadelphia TV station during which he said, "Michael Cohen is a convicted liar and he’s got no credibility whatsoever," according to Assistant District Attorney Chris Conroy.
  • Trump speaking about how fast the jury was picked and saying the jury pool was 95% Democrats during a Monday night news interview.
  • Trump said during an event in New York City Thursday morning that Pecker was "nice," which prosecutors say is a message to Pecker and other witnesses to "be nice."

Judge Juan Merchan did not react to Conroy’s presentation and did not say when he would rule on the alleged gag order violations.

Remember: Under the gag order, Trump is barred from publicly discussing witnesses or jurors in the case.

Prosecutors previously argued Tuesday that Trump “knows about the order” and “knows what he’s not allowed to do” but violates it anyway. They pointed to eight social media posts and two campaign website posts where Trump was primarily sharing commentary about expected trial witness Michael Cohen. Conroy is seeking a $1,000 fine for each post — the max fine. 

However, the defense has argued that specific attacks from Cohen, Trump's former personal attorney, and adult film star Stormy Daniels prompted the former president to respond, though attorney Todd Blanche has yet to point to specific attacks by them despite several requests to do so from Merchan. Blanche also tried to make the case that Trump has been "very careful" with the order.

9:45 a.m. ET, April 25, 2024

Judge is not issuing a gag order ruling

Judge Juan Merchan does not react to prosecutor Chris Conroy's presentation. He's not issuing his gag order ruling.

9:46 a.m. ET, April 25, 2024

Conroy says Trump's comment that Pecker is "nice" is a message to other witnesses

Prosecutor Chris Conroy also cites Donald Trump's comments at his event this morning where he spoke about tabloid publisher David Pecker, in which he said that Pecker was "nice."

"This is a message to Pecker. Be nice. It’s a message to others," Conroy says, adding the message to other witnesses is that Trump has a platform and will comment on their testimony.

9:44 a.m. ET, April 25, 2024

Trump violated gag order by talking about jury in interview, prosecutor says

The prosecutor is arguing Trump also violated the gag order Monday night during a news interview.

He says Trump spoke about how fast the jury was picked and claimed the jury pool was 95% Democrats.

9:42 a.m. ET, April 25, 2024

Trump's head is turned as prosecutor reads gag order violations

Trump has his head turned as he is listening to gag order violation examples being read.

9:43 a.m. ET, April 25, 2024

Violations of gag order occurred when Trump spoke outside courtroom, prosecutor says

The first two violations of the gag order that prosecutor Chris Conroy cites came when Donald Trump spoke to cameras outside the courtroom.

9:43 a.m. ET, April 25, 2024

Prosecutors add another gag order violation to the record

Merchan is calling for Pecker to be brought in — but the district attorney's office stops him to put on the record another violation of the gag order.

The prosecutor says there have been four violations of the gag order in the last three days.

9:40 a.m. ET, April 25, 2024

Judge asks to begin with testimony

Judge Juan Merchan is asking whether they can begin with testimony anyway.

Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass says he thinks so, because there's only one document in the next hour or two of testimony.

They'll deal with an issue over one exhibit during a break later this morning.

9:38 a.m. ET, April 25, 2024

Court starts with debate over objections on evidence

Court is beginning today with discussion of a debate from Tuesday over objections about evidence.

Trump attorney says they discussed their objections with prosecutors, and they made progress, though they still have some issues to work out.