David Pecker testified that Michael Cohen told him that he "wasn't part of the campaign" and instead was "on the outside" as Donald Trump's personal attorney.
However, Pecker said said Cohen seemed to have an informal role in the campaign, or he "injected himself into it."
"Michael was physically in every aspect of whatever the campaign was working on, at least at Trump Organization at Trump Tower, at least when he was physically there," Pecker said.