Pecker says Trump is "very knowledgeable" and "very detailed oriented" in business

Second day of testimony wraps in Trump hush money trial

From CNN's Jeremy Herb, Lauren del Valle and Kara Scannell in the courthouse

Updated 6:28 p.m. ET, April 23, 2024
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11:42 a.m. ET, April 23, 2024

Pecker says Trump is "very knowledgeable" and "very detailed oriented" in business

David Pecker was asked to describe Donald Trump as a businessperson.

"I would describe Mr. Trump as very knowledgeable," Pecker said. "I would describe him as very detailed oriented. I would describe him, almost, as a micromanager — he looked at all aspects of whatever the issue was."

11:40 a.m. ET, April 23, 2024

Pecker describes seeing Trump review and sign invoices and checks

David Pecker is testifying that he saw Trump review and sign invoices and checks.

He described sitting in Trump's office when Trump's assistant Rhona Graff walked in and gave him invoices and checks to sign.

"I noticed that he reviewed the invoice and looked at the check and he would sign them," Pecker testified.

11:40 a.m. ET, April 23, 2024

Pecker says Trump's bodyguard would sometimes pass messages between the two men

David Pecker is explaining how he and Donald Trump would communicate by phone, frequently through their offices and assistants.

There were times that Trump's bodyguard would pass messages to Trump from Pecker, he said.

Pecker also said he visited Trump at Trump Tower on multiple occasions over the years.

11:37 a.m. ET, April 23, 2024

Pecker says he saw Trump more frequently after announcing 2016 presidential run

David Pecker said before 2015, he saw Donald Trump monthly or maybe quarterly.

But after Trump announced he was running for president, "I saw Mr. Trump more frequently," Pecker said.

11:34 a.m. ET, April 23, 2024

Pecker says he considered Trump a friend until at least 2017

When asked, David Pecker confirmed he considered Donald Trump a friend at least until 2017.

11:36 a.m. ET, April 23, 2024

Pecker says he had a number of conversations with Trump about "The Apprentice"

Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass is now asking David Pecker about "The Apprentice."

Pecker said the show was "an instant success" and he had a number of conversations with Trump about the show.

"He was always kind enough to send me the content," the show's ratings, Pecker said, "and I was able to publish that in the National Enquirer."

Trump would share the ratings and show information for the Apprentice with Pecker who would publish the information in the National Enquirer and other magazines. It was "a mutually beneficial relationship," Pecker said noting he didn't have to pay for it but Trump got the publicity for the show in return.

11:32 a.m. ET, April 23, 2024

David Pecker says "celebrity" Trump advised him on parties and events to attend

Prior to acquiring the National Enquirer in 1999, David Pecker said he had "a lot of dealing and discussion with Mr. Trump as a celebrity in his own right."

"At that time he was very helpful, introducing me to other executives and other people in New York," Pecker said, adding that Donald Trump would advise him of events and parties he could either attend himself or send his editors to.

11:30 a.m. ET, April 23, 2024

Pecker says he presented idea of Trump Style magazine to Trump in 1989

David Pecker said back in 1989, he "had an idea of creating a magazine called Trump Style and I presented it to Mr. Trump, and he liked the idea a lot. He just questioned me 'Who was going to pay for it?'"

11:29 a.m. ET, April 23, 2024

Pecker says he's had "great relationship" with Trump

Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass asks David Pecker to explain his relationship with Trump.

"I’ve had a great relationship with Mr. Trump over the years," Pecker says.