Meet the clerk presiding during the speaker vote

January 5, 2023 GOP deadlocked over House speaker vote

By Aditi Sangal, Adrienne Vogt, Maureen Chowdhury and Elise Hammond, CNN

Updated 9:41 a.m. ET, January 6, 2023
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6:26 p.m. ET, January 5, 2023

Meet the clerk presiding during the speaker vote

From CNN's Chandelis Duster

House clerk Cheryl Johnson, top right, reads the results of a vote for House speaker on Thursday.
House clerk Cheryl Johnson, top right, reads the results of a vote for House speaker on Thursday. (Eric Lee/Bloomberg/Getty Images)

Cheryl Johnson, the House clerk who has presided over the contentious votes taking place this week during the speakership elections, is no stranger to turbulent times in the House of Representatives.

Already, in the nearly four years in which she has held the job, she has been present for two impeachment hearings as well as the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot.

Her typical duties include preparing and delivering messages to the US Senate, receiving messages from the US president and the Senate when the House is not in session, and certifying the passage of all bills and resolutions by the chamber.

Johnson was first sworn in as the 36th House Clerk by then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Feb. 25, 2019, and again on Jan. 3, 2021. Along with the House Sergeant at Arms, she led House impeachment managers as they walked over articles of impeachment against Donald Trump to the US Senate in 2020 and 2021.

Since John Beckley was elected as the first House clerk on April 1, 1789, Johnson is one of only four women to hold the title and the second Black person in the role.

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6:54 p.m. ET, January 5, 2023

GOP lawmaker says new deal could influence some votes, but other hardliners will "never yield" to McCarthy

GOP Rep. Pete Sessions of Texas said Republicans have had a "breakthrough" in negotiations that are set to possibly take place Thursday night. The proposed deal would help "reduce" the number of lawmakers who are voting against McCarthy, he told CNN Thursday.

McCarthy has already failed to reach a majority of the vote for 10 straight rounds of voting that have taken place over the last three days.

"It's my understanding that several votes will come by agreement with the deal that evidently has been arranged this afternoon. It started last night, it just took a while to materialize," Sessions said. "There is some progress and headway — and that's essentially what it's going to take. Groups of people that will then come to some agreement."

He said the process has been "longer than what we would have wanted," saying that the fact that debate is happening in such a public setting makes it more difficult.

"I think getting three or four, five more people will be progress," he said, but added that a group of around seven or eight lawmakers will "never yield" to McCarthy. Sessions hopes, though, that if some of the hardliners take a deal, that could influence others.

Lawmakers are already starting to consider the negotiations: Rep. Ralph Norman, one of those key holdouts, says there’s an offer “on paper” and he has been invited to come look at it. He walked into the whip’s office to review it.

CNN's Melanie Zanona contributed reporting to this report.

Hear Rep. Pete Sessions:

5:37 p.m. ET, January 5, 2023

McCarthy appears to suffer a historic defeat in 10th speaker ballot

From CNN staff

Rep. Kevin McCarthy stands in the center aisle of the House chamber on Thursday.
Rep. Kevin McCarthy stands in the center aisle of the House chamber on Thursday. (Evelyn Hockstein/Reuters)

Rep. Kevin McCarthy appears to suffer a historic defeat in the 10th ballot for House speaker as more than five Republicans opposed his bid.

The current bid for House leadership is now the longest speaker contest in 164 years.

A group of hardline Republicans have so far derailed McCarthy's bid to become House speaker — even after McCarthy reportedly proposed major concessions late Wednesday.

No member of Congress can be sworn in until a House Speaker is elected.

Why CNN says "appears to" suffer a defeat before the gavel goes down: Members-elect have the ability to change their votes before the vote is gaveled over. CNN is following along and tallying the voice votes as they happen, but it's important to be clear that anything could technically change before the vote ends. 

5:13 p.m. ET, January 5, 2023

Negotiators pushing for a deal tonight in attempt to show progress

From CNN's Manu Raju

Negotiators between the Kevin McCarthy allies and opponents are pushing for a deal tonight in attempt to show progress, according to a source in talks.

They believe they have made significant progress, but they are still haggling over some of the details. 

This is what is complicating matters: At least four Republican members are leaving town Friday because of various family issues. 

So the hope is that they can have some sort of agreement tonight and then can have a deal to adjourn at some point over the next 24 hours and come back Monday, a separate source says.

6:25 p.m. ET, January 5, 2023

This is now the longest House speaker contest in 164 years

Analysis by CNN's Zachary B. Wolf

A tally sheet of votes is seen in the House chamber on Thursday.
A tally sheet of votes is seen in the House chamber on Thursday. (Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)

We can't call it the longest House speaker contest in 100 years anymore. Now that we're through nine ballots, tying the 1923 process, it's the longest contest in 164 years, since the Congress during which states began seceding from the Union to kick off the Civil War.

It will take a long time to break any more records. The 1859 speaker contest went to 44 ballots before Rep. William Pennington, a Republican from New Jersey, won the post. An anomaly, Pennington only served in one Congress, the one where he was speaker, and lost a bid for reelection. He's one of just three speakers to be thrown out of office by voters.

The US House of 1859 was a very different place. Pennington's Republicans had the most members, with 116. But they did not have a majority of the 238 total members. There were also 83 Democrats, 19 Opposition Party members, eight Anti-Lecompton Democrats, seven Independent Democrats and five members of the American Party.

In the following Congress, which started in 1861, after Southern states seceded, House membership went down from 238 to 183 and Republicans had a very strong majority.

Here's how this House speaker vote compares to those of the past:

5:18 p.m. ET, January 5, 2023

In addition to McCarthy, these 3 lawmakers were nominated for House speaker

GOP Reps. Byron Donalds and Kevin Hern and Democratic Rep. Hakeem Jeffries were nominated for House speaker in the 10th round of voting, along with Kevin McCarthy.

In Rep. Anna Paulina Luna's speech nominating Donalds, she said that "Byron through this entire time has done something I think most leaders should do more of, and that is listen. Respect people when they're talking. Understand the needs of the American people. Be willing to take negotiations but also too to realize when is a proper time to stand your ground on certain things."

Rep. Lauren Boebert again threw Hern's name into the ring, calling him "a true leader" who can unify the conference.

Jeffries was again put forward on the Democratic side by Rep. Pete Aguilar.

Democrats are telling their members to prepare for a potentially long night, per a senior Democratic aide. 

CNN's Lauren Fox contributed reporting to this post.

5:06 p.m. ET, January 5, 2023

NOW: House voting on 10th speaker ballot

From CNN staff

The House is now voting to elect a speaker — for the tenth time. This tenth round makes this the longest speaker contest in 164 years.

Aside from Kevin McCarthy, Reps. Byron Donalds and Kevin Hern have also been nominated again in this round.

5:07 p.m. ET, January 5, 2023

McCarthy nominated for 10th House speaker ballot

From CNN staff

Rep.-elect Juan Ciscomani nominates Rep. Kevin McCarthy in the 10th round of voting for House speaker.
Rep.-elect Juan Ciscomani nominates Rep. Kevin McCarthy in the 10th round of voting for House speaker. (Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)

Rep. Kevin McCarthy has now been nominated in the 10th round of voting as the House works to break a stalemate and elect a new speaker. He was nominated by Rep.-elect Juan Ciscomani.

Ciscomani said McCarthy “cares about the American people. He cares about our country.”

"That has been laid out in his commitment to America. To fight for an economy that is strong, a nation that is safe, a future that is built on freedom, and a government that is accountable. This I can strongly get behind," he said.

Ciscomani talked about his family coming to the United States from Mexico, saying, "I trust Kevin to fight for that American dream."

Ciscomani will be the first Latino Republican elected to Congress from Arizona. Ciscomani previously worked at the Tucson Hispanic Chamber of Commerce and was a senior adviser to Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey.

Ongoing stalemate: McCarthy has come up short for the last nine ballots, despite making more concessions to hardliners. Two other Republicans — Rep. Byron Donalds and Rep. Kevin Hern — were also nominated during the last vote in opposition to McCarthy.

4:51 p.m. ET, January 5, 2023

JUST IN: McCarthy defeated in 9th House speaker ballot

From CNN's Annie Grayer, Kristin Wilson and Clare Foran 

Kevin McCarthy was defeated again in the ninth round of voting for House speaker after he lost multiple votes to Reps. Byron Donalds and Kevin Hern. A tenth round would be the longest speaker contest in 164 years.

McCarthy still had 20 total GOP lawmakers voting against him, and GOP Rep. Victoria Spartz voted present again. Rep. Ken Buck, who has supported McCarthy, did not vote this round. Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries had the unanimous support of his caucus.

The final tally was:

  • 212 for Jeffries
  • 200 for McCarthy
  • 17 for Donalds
  • 3 for Hern
  • 1 present vote

Remember: No member of the new Congress can be sworn in to office without a speaker of the House voted in. A group of hardline Republicans have so far derailed McCarthy's bid to become House speaker — even after McCarthy reportedly proposed major concessions late Wednesday.