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The report issued by the Department of Justice inspector general is photographed in Washington, Monday, Dec. 9, 2019. The report on the origins of the Russia probe found no evidence of political bias, despite performance failures.
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The report issued by the Department of Justice inspector general is photographed in Washington, Monday, Dec. 9, 2019. The report on the origins of the Russia probe found no evidence of political bias, despite performance failures.
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What we covered here

  • What happened: The Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee.
  • The report: Horowitz’s testimony comes two days after his long-awaited report on the origins of the FBI’s Trump-Russia investigation was released. The report said the start of FBI Russia probe was legally justified and unbiased, but cites significant errors in surveillance warrants.
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The hearing just wrapped up

Today’s Senate Judiciary Committee hearing just finished. Members asked Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz questions about his report on the origins of the FBI’s Trump-Russia investigation.

Chair Lindsey Graham closed the hearing with this thought:

What’s in the report: The report said the start of FBI Russia probe was legally justified and unbiased, but it also cited significant errors in surveillance warrants.

The report essentially refutes more than two years of talking points by President Trump and Republicans about a deep-state effort to derail his campaign.

There were no FBI spies planted in Trump Tower, for instance. And the famed dossier by ex-British spy Christopher Steele was not the reason the investigation was launched, the IG report states.

GOP senator describes reaction to reading the report: "I thought I had dropped acid"

Republican Sen. John Kennedy had a colorful way of describing how reading the revelations in the inspector general’s report shocked him.

Horowitz agreed, saying that though he’s read it “multiple times,” the report still “surprises” him. 

Watch here:

Inspector general says he hasn't decided not to investigate Ukraine incidents

Inspector General Michael Horowitz told Sen. Kamala Harris he has not decided not to investigate the incidents surrounding Ukraine.

“Earlier today, you said you are not investigating matters related to ongoing Ukraine issues does that mean that you have decided not to investigate these incidents?” she asked.

Here’s how Horowitz responded: 

Horowitz pointed out potential limitations on jurisdiction. Rather than rely on news reports, he said, he would like to review the facts surrounding Rudy Giuliani’s actions in Ukraine with law enforcement himself and return to the committee to speak to the issue.

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Horowitz: No evidence that FBI tapped phones or planted informants inside the Trump campaign

In an exchange with Democratic Sen. Richard Blumenthal, inspector general Michael Horowitz refuted a multitude of claims made by President Trump, including that the FBI tapped phones at Trump Tower and planted informants or spies in his campaign.

Here’s some of the exchange:

Horowitz added: “We did not find evidence that the FBI sought to place confidential human sources inside the campaign or plant them inside the campaign.”

Fact check: Lindsey Graham's said Trump's campaign only got "vanilla" FBI briefings. That's mostly true.

During the hearing, Sen. Lindsey Graham made a point of contrasting the briefings on Russian meddling the FBI provided to the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Trump campaign.

Graham suggested that while Clinton was briefed about “foreign influences involving her campaign,” the FBI provided only a “vanilla briefing” to Trump’s campaign outlining that “the Russians are out there, you better beware.” 

Facts First: This is largely true. According to the Justice Department inspector general’s report on the Russia investigation, the Trump campaign did not receive a briefing on suspected Russian interference in the campaign. Instead, the campaign was briefed on potential interference from foreign actors including Russia. That might sound like a small difference but it means that the FBI did not tell the Trump campaign it was actively investigating whether the Russians were meddling in his campaign. 

In the recently released inspector general report, Bill Priestap, then-chief of the FBI’s counterintelligence division, explained that the campaign was not briefed because it was possible that parts of the campaign were working with Russia.

In other words, Priestap is suggesting that at the time there was concern inside the FBI that one or more people in the Trump campaign may have been colluding with Russia. 

During today’s hearing, Justice Department inspector general Michael Horowitz testified that the FBI “sent one of the supervisory agents” from the team investigating whether the Russians were colluding with the Trump campaign “to the briefing.” That agent then reported back what Trump and others said during the briefing.

“So the agent was actually doing the briefing but also using it for the purpose of investigation,” Horowitz testified.

Ted Cruz: "This wasn't Jason Bourne. This was Beavis and Butt-Head." 

In closing out his questioning of inspector general Michael Horowitz, Sen. Ted Cruz criticized how the FBI investigation was run.

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Ted Cruz: The report is "a stunning indictment"

Republican Sen. Ted Cruz slammed the “pattern of abuse of power” in the Justice Department and the FBI during today’s hearing, calling the inspector general’s report “a stunning indictment.”  

Cruz said the facts laid out in the report made him “angry.”

“It makes anyone who expects law enforcement to be non-partisan and faithful to the law — it should make them angry as well,” he said.

Horowitz endorses Robert Mueller's report

Democratic Sen. Amy Klobuchar asked inspector general Michael Horowitz whether he found any information that would undermine several of the most important findings from special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation. 

The inspector general also noted that his own report cites Mueller’s report on several occasions. 

Some context: Horowitz reviewed the early stages of the Russia investigation, which was conducted by the FBI until it was handed off to Mueller after his appointment as special counsel in May 2017.

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Inspector general: It's "unclear what the motivations were" in surveillance errors

Sen. Mike Lee, a Republican from Utah, pressed Inspector General Michael Horowitz on the lack of “documentary, testimonial evidence” of bias found in his report and whether it truly serves as evidence of no bias.

Horowitz clarified that, in fact, on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act issues, the “lack of satisfactory explanations” left it “unclear what the motivations were.”

He said this was noted in the report. Thus, the report did not rule out whether bias was present.

The hearing is back in session

The Senate Judiciary Committee’s hearing with Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz is back from break.

The members of the committee are asking Horowitz questions about his long-awaited report on the origins of the FBI’s Trump-Russia investigation.

Inspector general says he's investigating possible FBI leaks to Giuliani in 2016

Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy asked Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz to give an update on his office’s investigation into potential leaks by FBI officials in New York to Trump’s attorney Rudy Giuliani before the 2016 election. 

How this started: Weeks before the 2016 election, Giuliani claimed that he heard about big problems coming soon for Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton. That was shortly before then-FBI Director James Comey announced he was re-opening the criminal probe into her email server, which didn’t lead to any criminal charges. The polls shifted after Comey’s comments, and Clinton claims was a main reason for her defeat.

Today, Leahy asked:

Horowitz replied, “We were very concerned about that, and he noted that he mentioned some of those potentially improper contacts in the report he put out last year reviewing the Clinton email probe.

“Subsequent to that report, and this continues to this day, we are investigating those contacts,” Horowitz said. “We’ve issued a couple of public summaries so far about people we found violated FBI policy. We have other investigations ongoing that when we conclude it, we will also post summaries.”

But Horowitz hinted that his team was struggling to prove that there were illegal leaks. 

“What’s proving to be very hard is to prove the actual substance of the communications between the agents and the reporter, or the individuals, but we can prove the contacts,” Horowitz said. “Under FBI policy you need authorization if you’re going to disclose information and have certain contacts.”

Democrats accused Giuliani, who was previously the US attorney in Manhattan, of tapping his network of friends and contacts in law enforcement to get tips about Clinton, which he used to attack her in the press. Comey also raised this possibility in a closed-door deposition with House lawmakers last year.

For his part, Giuliani has denied ever receiving non-public information from active FBI agents.

The hearing is taking a break

The Senate Judiciary Committee’s hearing is now on break. The committee will be back later to continue questioning Inspector General Michael Horowitz.

Horowitz says he knew in advance US Attorney disagreed with him

Inspector General Michael Horowitz said he was “surprised” by US attorney John Durham’s public statement undercutting his findings on the FBI Monday, though he knew they had disagreed somewhat.

Durham is conducting a criminal probe at Attorney General William Barr’s request into broader intelligence behind the probe, and has continued to look at questions Horowitz examined.

Durham’s statement was highly unusual for a prosecutor conducting an ongoing investigation. “Based on the evidence collected to date, and while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the Inspector General that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the FBI case was opened,” Durham said in his statement Monday. 

Horowitz also said that his office had asked Durham and Barr to share evidence that could help the FISA investigation. “None of the discussions changed our findings here” that there wasn’t political bias that motivated the counterintelligence investigation, Horowitz said.

Horowitz: FBI couldn’t confirm dossier allegations against Page

When the FBI and DOJ asked the FISA court for permission to wiretap Carter Page, they said they wanted to investigate whether he was acting as an agent of the Russian government, based in part on allegations from “the dossier,” a series of memos compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele. 

The dossier accused Page of acting as a conduit between the Trump campaign and the Russian government, and of playing an important role in their collusion over the 2016 election. Steele said Page met in Moscow with a top Russian energy executive and a Kremlin official to facilitate the alleged scheme, which included offers of lucrative energy deals in exchange for Trump lifting sanctions. 

The FISA court approved surveillance and wiretapping for nearly a year. But in the end, the FBI didn’t find any evidence to corroborate the allegations against Page that were mentioned in the dossier.

The sweeping investigation led by special counsel Robert Mueller confirmed that Russia meddled in the election but did not establish that there was a criminal conspiracy between Trump’s team and the Russians. Mueller didn’t bring charges against Page, who maintains that he never did anything wrong.

Horowitz says he wouldn't have submitted version of Carter Page surveillance application the FBI used

Inspector General Michael Horowitz said he would not have sent the FBI’s version of the application to surveil Carter Page to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court for approval if he had been the investigator.

Why this matters: This is the strongest characterization yet from Horowitz of his disapproval of the FISA application of Page, following his 400-page report released Monday that condemned 17 “significant errors or omissions” made by the FBI in the application.

Judiciary Committee Chair Lindsey Graham asked Horowitz about how a source on the Steele dossier had cast doubt on some of its assertions to the FBI.

Horowitz added that he thought “It was misleading to the court.”

He also said:

This comment from him closely mirrors a section of his report.

Horowitz stands by his report after attacks from the attorney general

Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz testifies about the Inspector General's report on alleged abuses of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Capitol Hill in Washington, DC, December 11, 2019.

Inspector general Michael Horowitz said he “stands by our finding” that the FBI was right to open the Russia investigation, even after Attorney General Bill Barr said this week that he doesn’t agree with that assessment.

President Trump also sided with Barr and claimed for years that the probe was illegal. Horowitz’s report said the FBI cleared the low legal threshold needed to launch the probe and that there was a legitimate factual basis to suspect that crimes might have been committed by Trump campaign aides. 

Sen. Feinstein asked: “Attorney general Barr expressed his doubt about the legitimacy of the FBI’s investigation in press statements. Did Attorney General Barr provide any evidence that caused you to alter this key finding that the FBI investigation had an adequate predicate? 

More context: After the report came out, Barr contradicted some of Horowitz’s primary conclusions — including the determination that the Russia investigation was justified when it was launched in July 2016. Barr has also said there were “gross abuses of FISA” and leaned into conspiracies that the Obama administration improperly manipulated law enforcement tools to “spy” on the Trump campaign.

Graham details the first time he read the dossier

Sen. Lindsey Graham, the chair of the Judiciary Committee, jumped on Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s report’s extensive descriptions of Christopher Steele’s dossier on Trump and the efforts the FBI took to verify information in it.

He even shared what he says now were his initial reactions to it.

First, some background: The dossier, before it was made public, had been sent to the late Sen. John McCain. McCain, a longtime close friend of Graham’s before his death, had tasked a staffer at his foreign policy institute to determine whether Steele’s information was serious and had spoken to Graham about it.

McCain quickly turned the dossier over to the FBI.

Here’s what Graham said today:

He continued: “I told him the only thing I knew to do with it, it could be a bunch of garbage, it could be true, who knows? Turn it over to somebody who’s job it is to find these things out and John McCain acted appropriately.”

“And I understand that, clearly people are in the McCain world that did some things inappropriate but it was not John McCain,” Graham said. “John McCain did not give it to anybody in the press, he talked to me just as soon as he got it, and he turned it over to the FBI and that’s exactly what he should have done.”

In fact, many of the claims in Steele’s dossier have held up over time, or have proven to be at least partially true, including the fact that there was a concerted Russian operation to attacking the 2016 US election.

Some of the more salacious claims in the dossier, however, including what the inspector general described as video tapes of “alleged unorthodox sexual behavior,” couldn’t be confirmed, Horowitz noted Monday.

"Fundamental reform" needed at secretive surveillance court, Graham says

Sen. Lindsey Graham, the chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said he had “serious concerns” about the secretive surveillance court that approved politically sensitive wiretaps in 2016.

He added that he’s not sure the court should continue to exist “unless there is fundamental reform.”

What you need to know about the court: The special court operates in secret and approves wiretaps under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act — or FISA — a law that is typically used to target foreign spies and terrorists. The court was created by Congress in in 1978 and is comprised of 11 federal trial-level judges chosen by the Chief Justice.

In 2016, the FBI sought and received approval from the court to surveil Carter Page for nearly a year, starting shortly after he left the Trump campaign in the fall of 2016.

What the report says about FISA: The inspector general’s report found that significant errors and problems with how the FBI prepared the applications to the court, including the critical finding that exculpatory evidence about Page was omitted. Trump and Graham said these findings prove that the FISA process was abused, for political purposes, though the DOJ IG said there was no bias in the decision to seek FISA surveillance of Page, and these procedural failures were generally mistakes and sloppiness, not intentional manipulation.

“I would hate to lose the ability of the FISA court to operate at a time probably when we need it the most,” Graham said today.

He continued: “But after your report, I have serious concerns about whether the FISA court can continue unless there is fundamental reform. After your report, I think we need to rewrite the rules of how you start a counter-intelligence investigation and the checks and balances that we need.” 

A spokesperson for the court declined to comment this week after the publication of the report.

The name "Clinesmith" just came up at the hearings. Here's what you need to know.

Sen. Lindsey Graham has named publicly the lower-level FBI lawyer who allegedly changed a document used in the Carter Page FISA warrant application.

Graham referred to “Clinesmith” during the inspector general hearing before the Senate. That’s Kevin Clinesmith.

CNN first reported the inspector general had discovered the situation, and that it was referred to prosecutor John Durham as a potential criminal matter.

What the report says: The report released Monday described more details of what had happened. The change to the Page-related email had said Page was “not a ‘source’” for intelligence, when in fact he had been. At first, the attorney told the inspector general he was not sure how the change happened, then later acknowledged he had made the change. Page’s status as a source to US intelligence was a notable error among several within the FBI regarding the court application to surveil the former Trump campaign affiliate.

Clinesmith has not been charged with a crime. An attorney for Clinesmith has not responded to CNN requests for comment this week.

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