This is One Thing, I'm David Rind, and this is what it feels like right now on the ground in a very tense Chicago.

I mean, you could be an unwitting citizen and all of a sudden find yourself caught up in this national politics debate that is showing itself out in neighborhoods and in a lot of anger. Stick with us.

'Every Friday for the past few weeks, a group of protesters have gathered at an immigration and customs enforcement processing facility in the suburb of Chicago called Broadview. The site, about 15 miles west of downtown, has become the epicenter of the conflict over President Donald Trump's ongoing immigration crackdown in the city. If he has his way, Chicago will be the next Democrat-led city to receive a batch of National Guard troops too, as he says, protect federal buildings and officers. And so each week at this facility, armed officers with riot shields have been standing guard and staring down demonstrators. Things have been largely peaceful, but occasionally tensions flare. So you went down to Broadview on Friday, yes?

Yeah, that was my first time there. I went down there specifically because I had watched the tensions continue to ratchet up. And I was frankly worried that ICE or the other federal officers in ICE might eventually kill somebody.

Reverend Dr. Michael Wolf is the senior minister at Lake Street Church of Evanston, another Chicago suburb.

I was gathered at an intersection that's right down from the ICE facility. They've recently erected a bunch of barricades and there's been a First Amendment zone. When we got there, honestly, there wasn't a lot happening for at least an hour and a half, a couple hours that I was there. Almost everybody was staying on the curb, exactly where the Illinois State Police had told us where we ought to stay.

'And then the thing that changed it was about 50 or so, I think a little bit more, ICE officers and there was also ATF officers who came out and there was an attempt to push the protesters way back. They definitely pushed me. I was in my clerical collars. I got a few bruises on my chest. Definitely ice grabbed my neck. One of particularly zealous ICE officer, there's no nice way to say this, he grabbed my nipple and twisted as hard as he could. This is a while I'm sitting there completely nonviolent and non-threatening really, because I'm in a clerical collar. I'm not there to do anything besides exercise my First Amendment rights, pray, that's what I was doing when I was getting hit, and also try to ratchet down the tensions, frankly, so that people are not going to get hurt.

I asked the Department of Homeland Security about how Reverend Wolf was treated at the protests. They claimed Illinois State Police was the primary group pushing back protesters and said their officers do not use undue force when dealing with crowds. I also asked the Illinois State police about this. They said they're looking into it, but it's also worth pointing out. This is just one immigration facility located in an industrial park about 20 minutes from downtown Chicago. Trump is also keeping his eye on Portland, Oregon. Protests at an immigration facility there cover about half a city block. It's all to say, despite some images of pepper balls, tear gas, and handcuffed protesters, the skirmishes are not widespread in either city. What would you say to the theory put forward by Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker that the Trump administration wants to draw in protesters and wants them to act out against law enforcement so that they have. Some kind of pretext to send in National Guard troops to create the appearance of mayhem and disorder. He said on CNN the other day, quote, they are the ones making it a war zone. In that case, would it not be more valuable to just stay away?

Right. Yeah. So I would say that we stayed away. We are pretty calm. I mean, like we're not rushing the gates of the ICE facility. If you listen to what folks are talking about and federal officers are talking about, they're acting like they're under siege. But at least the protests I was at. I mean I can't be everywhere at once. I can I can attest to every single protesters conduct. But what I can tell you is that people are peaceful and they're committed to peace. They're not on any federal property. They're not doing anything to anyone. They're not putting hands on anybody, especially. What I did see is a commitment to say that when people don't like something that they see the government doing, they have the ability and they have their right to raise their voice against it. Me, as a clergy person, for instance, I think it's really important for people to use their privilege to say and condemn what they don't, what they're seeing, what things that are immoral. And for me, that's really to be there. But there's not really an attempt to ratchet up the temperature here. If anything. It's the federal officers and it's Illinois state police that really ratcheted up the tensions and that wanted to do a lot of the push.

So you would encourage folks to keep going down there and just, you know, kind of make their presence felt.

Yeah, I would encourage people to follow their conscience.

Last night the President announced he is authorizing 300 members of the Illinois National Guard to quote, protect federal officers and assets in Chicago over the objections of the state's Democratic Governor J.B. Pritzker.

Show you an image now from Texas Republican Governor Greg Abbott, who posted this, showing National Guard troops from his state boarding a military aircraft headed for Chicago.

So with protesters and city officials pushing back, where does this go from here? Let's turn now to CNN anchor and correspondent Omar Jimenez. Okay, so Omar, you went to school in Chicago. You have a lot of ties to the city. You're back now. So first of all, I'm wondering, does the city look or feel different than normal?

In this trip, yes, it feels a little different. I would say tensions are pretty high right now. For example, we're coming off of a day where we saw a press conference from the mayor pushing back against the Trump administration.

'The order establishes ICE-free zones...

followed by a press conference from the superintendent of police pushing back against narratives from the outside over how they've handled interactions with federal law enforcement.

So although we do not engage in immigration enforcement, we are going to enforce the law when the laws are violated.

Followed by a press conference with the governor and the mayor pushing back in a lawsuit against the Trump administration.

The state of Illinois is going to use every lever at our disposal to resist this power grab and get gnomes, thugs the hell out of Chicago.

I was struggling to remember another time where it was an entire day, really, of folks in leadership positions in this city, either pushing back against the Trump administration or feeling the need to defend the actions that they took, what's become a very high profile series of events here.

Yeah, so you and I are talking on Tuesday morning. So what is the latest? Are National Guard troops in the city yet or no?

Not at this moment, the lawsuit that Illinois Governor JB Pritzker and others filed against the Trump administration is essentially the judge ruled did not block immediately the deployment of national guard troops. They gave them the government essentially two days to respond and she wants questions answered in that response, like what the scope of the activity for these guard members would be, when they would be here, what municipalities they would affect, things like that. With an oral arguments hearing scheduled for Thursday morning.

Yeah, and the questions the judge wants answered are the questions local officials and the public want answered too. I imagine what exactly are these troops going to be doing? It's important to delineate though, these national guard troops who are not there yet from federal agents who are there because we have seen some really dramatic immigration enforcement raids and some kind of violent incidents in the past couple of days, right?

Yeah, I mean, and that's why it's part of why tensions have been so high here. Just to name a few, there was a very highly publicized raid at a set of apartments on the south side of Chicago in the South shore neighborhood. Blackhawk helicopters are involved, you know, the DHS put out a video, obviously they had cameras there, but, I mean, kicking down doors. People sort of being detained and you ask questions later, you know, 37 people were arrested, but there's a lot of damage done and a lot more people that were detained, including American citizens.

And this morning on Chicago's southwest side, there was a shooting involving agents and people who apparently didn't want them there to say the least.

And then a few days later there was a woman who allegedly rammed a federal immigration vehicle and then that CBP officer got out and shot that woman multiple times. Oh wow. She ended up going to the hospital.

Department of Justice announced that two people have been charged in federal court with using their vehicles to assault, impede and interfere with the work of federal agents.

That's what you're protecting officers!

But then protest ensued in that neighborhood as a result. Which then triggered Chicago police to also respond. And then in response to what became growing protests, federal officers deployed tear gas, Chicago police officers were tear gassed as part of that.

They're f***ing leaving our f***in' neighborhood and they're throwing gas cans out the f***n' window! This is Bryant Park! This is not a war zone!

All of this happened within a few days of each other, and that's kind of the climate that was leading up to the lawsuit that was filed, just to give you an idea of the tension that was already brewing here.

I'm gonna have more with Omar after the break. Beyond the court fight, do local officials have other ways of resisting this deployment? Like what are they trying?

Yeah, so there are a few things. The mayor of Chicago signed an executive order barring federal immigration officials from using city property to stage for raids or from using property for really anything. The question though, because I was with the mayor when he signed that executive order, the question I asked him was, well, does that authorize the Chicago police to in theory arrest federal immigration officers if they're breaking this law that the executive order is setting or this ordinance? And he wouldn't go that far. Instead, he said the idea is more to establish a legal way in to push back against the Trump administration if there are federal immigration officials consistently violating.

So it's like we have this executive order. It's on the books and if you come here, we're gonna take you to court

'Yeah. Yeah. And the Chicago police superintendent also doubled down and said, we will not be arresting federal immigration officers. But again, there are signs that are up that essentially say this is an ice-free zone. But again it's unclear kind of one, how much teeth that has and how much of a real effect that will have. If you know, they decide to use private property, uh, which the city can't do anything about if business owners consent to having them.

So Governor Pritzker says the Trump administration is escalating this sense of conflict, intentionally escalating tensions. And we actually spoke with a protester earlier who was at Broadview the other day who felt some of the behavior was to kind of create this propaganda footage that can be used later. Is your sense that federal authorities in Chicago are being patient or provocative?

It's hard to say Chicago police accustomed to dealing with protesters, but with federal immigration folks there, I mean, dropping tear gas, which by accounts from witnesses did not seem to be in any real tactical fashion creates a situation where, I mean, if you've been around tear gas it does not discriminate once it's deployed. I mean kids could get it in their eyes. And so, I actually don't think it's quite so simple as they're escalating things. What I do think is that it puts people in a situation in which angers can be inflamed. And I think with Broadview's situation, which is the ICE facility just outside of Chicago, you know, they put up fencing to try to keep folks even further back. But that is likely going to be a consistent target here just because when we talk about where these national guard will be deployed. They're being deployed under the directive of protecting federal property and personnel. And that is where we have seen a good portion of protests to where the federal government has said, hey, we need some protection. And so I just anticipate that that is going to continue. And my experience just in general covering protests when there's a lot of law enforcement and there's lot of protestors, usually it's fine. But the recipe for escalation. Is very much there.

Well, so Omar, I realize the vast majority of Chicagoans are not actively participating in these protests. They just want to go about their normal lives, feel safe while doing it. And when it comes to the broader issue of public safety, officials have touted double digit decreases in terms of homicides and shootings in recent years. But as we wait and see whether the judge will allow troops to be deployed, and if so, what they'll actually be doing. Where does this leave local communities in Chicago, especially those who would be in the crosshairs of immigration authorities with or without the National Guard presence?

We talked about the incident where the woman allegedly rammed her vehicle into the federal law enforcement vehicle. I should also note her attorney is disputing that saying body camera video shows it was the law enforcement officer that rammed it to her, but that's something that's playing out in court, but we spoke to a local business manager.

What happened on Saturday here?

What happened was that somebody walked in here with poodles and obviously they were intercepted bleeding and I called 911 right away.

The woman who was shot wandered into his shop bleeding after being shot and he told us about how he had to take care of her and called 911 and she sort of explained a little bit of what happened when the police got there.

Fireman pulled up, then the ambulance pulled up and then ICE pulled up.

But the reason why I thought he was interesting is obviously his nexus to the story, but he said that after she was gone, ICE officers showed up to his parking lot. Police had also just pulled out, but all of a sudden protests that had been spanning from the shooting, we're now in his doorstep.

I got two calls, one was a 773 number saying that why am I allowing ice to stage in my parking lot to stop people, but they're not stopping people.

And then he started getting threatening calls because to them, it looked like he was harboring ice and allowing them to be on his private property. And he was telling us, well, what do you want me to do? I can't go out there and tell those guys to leave when there's multiple cars. And, you know, I just helped save this this woman.

What are you gonna say?

What do you want me to do? Well, if you don't get them out of your life, you're gonna have a real bad day today. I go, so now you're threatening me. You don't know me, you don't know what I'm doing here or anything, but you can threaten me.

'And to me what that showed is that, I mean, you could be an unwitting citizen and all of a sudden find yourself caught up in this national politics debate that is showing itself out in neighborhoods and in a lot of anger. And when we're going around and shooting our stuff, we're in a big black SUV. It's always been that way. It's just our company cars. It's kind of what our photographers have. And we got a lot of funny looks driving around in a black SUV in that neighborhood. And I can say I've never had to really deal with that before, but it just showed that people are nervous, especially in certain spots with high Latino populations who have already had run-ins with federal immigration officials.

Like the administration can say these immigration raids are very targeted, but just the presence of being in these neighborhoods can spill out to everybody who lives there and just the sight of an unmarked vehicle can get blood pressure up for these folks.

Yeah, and it puts pressure on them to feel like they need to protect themselves and protect their communities. It's why even when the ICE officers were leaving the scene after this particular shooting and the protests were going up, I mean, there are videos of people throwing stuff at the vans, kicking the van as it's trying to get out. And it just kind of shows I think there is a growing or simmering. Will from folks to try and figure out ways to push back against ICE officers, but obviously that creates a situation where officers might feel their lives are more threatened and you can see how that situation begins to escalate in a way that might not end well.

Well, Omar, thanks for the perspective. I appreciate it. Of course. Thanks for having me. Good to see you. A source familiar with the deployment tells CNN that approximately 200 Texas National Guard troops arrived at a military facility near Chicago on Tuesday. They'll receive crowd control and legal training ahead of any specific assignments.

The governor of Texas spent $200 million that should be going towards raising the minimum wage in Texas.

At a press conference, Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson once again criticized the deployment and said they will continue to fight it.

The governor of Texas should be worrying about Texas. Why he all up in my business? Focus on Texas.

'We should also say Omar Jimenez is the host of the new CNN podcast, Torture Justice. It's a really gripping three-part series investigating a violent police unit in 1970s and 80s Chicago and the trauma it inflicted on the community. I highly recommend it. Just search for Torture justice or CNN presents wherever you're listening right now. And we will be back on Sunday. I'll talk to you then.