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All over the world, there are people who are living extraordinary lives, full of happiness and health – and with hardly any heart disease, cancer or diabetes. Dr. Sanjay Gupta has been on a decades-long mission to understand how they do it, and how we can all learn from them. Scientists now believe we can even reverse the symptoms of Alzheimer’s dementia, and in fact grow sharper and more resilient as we age. Sanjay is a dad – of three teenage daughters, he is a doctor - who operates on the brain, and he is a reporter with more than two decades of experience - who travels the earth to uncover and bring you the secrets of the happiest and healthiest people on the planet – so that you too, can Chase Life.

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Pneumonia Affects Millions Each Year—Here’s How to Stay Safe
Chasing Life
Mar 11, 2025

Pneumonia is a serious threat; what can you do to lower your risk? Plus, for all the night owls out there, Dr. Sanjay Gupta answers a listener’s question: are your late-night habits lazy, or is there actual science behind them?

Episode Transcript
Dr. Sanjay Gupta
00:00:03
Welcome to Paging Dr. Gupta! This is the podcast where I get to answer your health questions, which I love doing. You've been sending in some really great questions, so there's a lot to get to today. And Kyra, who you're getting to know, one of our producers, she's back with me. Kyra, what do we have first?
Kyra Dahring
00:00:20
Hey, Sanjay. Glad to be back! So, our first question today is coming from Mark in New York City. He's in his 50s and wants to know: how do I avoid pneumonia?
Dr. Sanjay Gupta
00:00:33
'All right. Mark, great question. Pneumonia has been in the news quite a bit lately and it can be a serious threat, especially as we get older. In fact, nearly a million older adults are hospitalized with pneumonia every year, and over a third of them will die within a year. So, pneumonia can start to be this trajectory towards a pretty serious illness. While older adults are the ones that we typically think about facing the highest risk, it can also be severe for young children, for immunocompromised individuals, and those with serious health conditions. Now, there's good news here in that there's a lot you can do to lower your risk. There are vaccines for pneumonia specifically, typically for children, and then at age 50, with a possible booster at age 65. Getting the flu shot, that can help prevent infections that can lead to pneumonia. And if you're eligible, there's also the RSV vaccine, this can offer some extra protection. The CDC recommends it for adults 75 and older, and those who are 60 to 74 who are considered higher risk. So pneumonia, just keep in mind it's an infection of the lungs. There's the upper respiratory tract. There's the lower respiratory tract. Upper respiratory tract is going to be more in your throat in your nose. Lower respiratory tract is pneumonia. Now people can have bronchitis, that's typically an inflammation of the airways inside your lungs. But pneumonia is an actual infection. Typically, it's a bacterial infection actually caused by something known as streptococcus. Now, you can take antibiotics for that. You take antibiotics for bacterial infections. But there can also be viral pneumonias which would not respond to antibiotics. But about 60 to 70% of pneumonias are actually caused by bacteria, so the vast majority are going to be caused by bacteria. They can be diagnosed with the physical exam and a chest x-ray. You may have also heard Mark, I'll mention, walking pneumonia. Walking pneumonia is kind of what it sounds like, it's a pneumonia where you can still be up walking around, so it's less severe and oftentimes it is also diagnosed by physical exam and a chest x-ray. Interestingly, with a standard pneumonia it typically affects one area of the lung, so one of the lobes of the lung. With the walking pneumonia, even though it is less severe in terms of symptoms, it does tend to affect all of the lungs, all the lobes of the lungs. But with walking pneumonia, you typically don't need to take antibiotics, you can typically treat that with over-the-counter medications. There are things that increase your risk and you should cut back on those things. Smoking is an obvious one. Heavy drinking that can weaken your immune system make you more vulnerable. And as I will talk about on this podcast all the time, supporting your immune system. Your immune system is constantly fighting off pathogens, it's doing it right now, probably as you're listening to this podcast. You want to make sure your immune system is as strong as possible. Lots of fruits and veggies and whole foods. Regular exercise, that helps release a lot of those pathogen fighting components in your blood. Even just brisk walking can go a long way. Prioritize good sleep. Your body needs that energy to be able to fight off infections. And you know, when you think about pneumonia, you think about respiratory infections. The way that they spread is by coughing and sneezing and putting those respiratory droplets into the air. Someone else can breathe those in, so you may want to protect yourself, especially if you're around sick people by wearing a high filtration mask. Those droplets can also get on surfaces, and people may touch those surfaces and then touch their eyes, their nose, or their mouth. So make sure surfaces are clean. Make sure your hands are clean. Avoid people who are obviously sick. Be mindful of spending time in high risk settings where you think a lot of viruses are going to go around. So Mark, that's basically it, you can do a lot of things to try and prevent or at least reduce your risk of getting pneumonia. And you're already on the right track, just for asking.
Dr. Sanjay Gupta
00:04:51
Okay. We've got time for one more question, right after the break.
Dr. Sanjay Gupta
00:04:59
All right, Kyra, sounds like it's time to answer another page...
Kyra Dahring
00:05:02
Yes it is. We have Casey here, who called in for her question from San Diego, California. Take a listen.
Listener Casey
00:05:09
Hi Sanjay, it's Casey, and I was going to suggest some future topics that are of interest to me. Ah mostly for selfish reasons, I'm not going to lie, but one was about people who are night owls...that's me! And how their brains are different. I was listening to Abby Phillip and she was talking about being a night owl, and you know, having to deal with being perceived as being lazy by everybody. So I just thought that was interesting because I suffer that same characterization by people. So, thank you for your time. Bye.
Dr. Sanjay Gupta
00:05:42
Okay really interesting, Casey, thanks for calling in! First of all, I just want to say that I know Abby Phillip, I know her well. She's a colleague. She's a friend. She is not lazy. She works really hard. You have no idea how hard it is to anchor some of these shows, and the amount of work you got to do to make them as good as she does on a regular basis. Let me start off by saying this being a night out isn't simply a matter of preference or being lazy. In many ways, it is biological, I mean, nothing is entirely biological. There's always a nature and nurture component to just about everything, but there is a big sort of biological component to what is known as your sleep chronotype. Whether you naturally wake up early or whether you stay up late is largely driven by your own circadian rhythm. Your circadian rhythm. Think of that as your internal clock that regulates all sorts of functions. Sleep, yes, but also digestion and your body temperature and your mood. The reasons people like to eat at certain times, there are reasons they may feel cold or colder at certain times of the day, and why they may feel a little bit more anxious or energetic at certain times of the day. And obviously again, sleep when you may feel tired or more awake at certain times of the day. All of that has to do with your circadian rhythms. If you want to describe it even further for night owls, Melatonin, which is the hormone of darkness, the hormone of sleep. Melatonin, something that people will take to help fall asleep. You naturally produce this, but for night owls, that production starts later and that makes it natural to be more alert at night and to sleep in later in the morning. Now, I'm the opposite. I'm an early bird. I've always been an early bird. I think it's one of those things that probably helped me get through a pretty brutal seven years of neurosurgical residency. I was getting up at 5:00 in the morning to make rounds on time, but I was really good at that time of day. I spring out of bed first thing in the morning. My wife, incidentally, is a night owl. So that makes for an interesting marriage. I think it actually works, especially when our kids were young, because I'd get up early with them, she'd stay up late with them. Yeah, it's a whole thing. Now, there is some research to prove, for you Casey, that night owls have some advantages. There was a study from Imperial College which found that night owls actually scored, on average, higher on cognitive tests than early risers. I was surprised to read this study, you know, being an early morning person myself. But they actually studied over 26,000 people and they categorize them by this chronotype that I'm talking about morning person, night owl, or somewhere in between. But the findings, I think they helped challenge the stereotype that you're raising about early risers versus night owls being more productive or successful. Now, there are some downsides, as there are for most things in life. Other studies have shown that night owls are at higher risk for chronic diseases like heart disease, diabetes, even depression. But what they find when they dig into that a little bit more deeply is that that is often tied to lifestyle choices that go along with being a night owl. What are you doing when you're staying up late? Doomscrolling on your phone, probably skipping breakfast the next day, and you might have more irregular sleep. And that just throws off your internal clock. But if being a night owl worries you, there are some things you can do to help flip your body switch from night to day, at least a little bit. Again, there's a nature nurture component to everything. First of all, as soon as your alarm goes off in the morning, turn on the light and try and get as much natural light as possible. I always say open your shades before you look at your phone, just get that natural light into your eyes that kind of helps reset your internal clock. Makes waking up earlier easier. Next, stop eating at least three hours before bed and if you regularly exercise, which you should, try and do it earlier in the day. Also those screens, I mean those screens have really changed how we sleep overall as a world, not just a country. Turn off the screen earlier. This allows your body to start producing melatonin, the hormone of darkness, that helps you wind down. If you are still awake, try replacing the screen time with reading or even meditation. I've started doing yoga nidra. If you don't know what that is, look it up. It can be very, very relaxing. Whatever helps you relax, do something like that. Bottom line Casey, you are not lazy, neither is Abby Phillip. Your body just works differently. Focus on getting enough quality sleep and finding a routine that works for you.
Dr. Sanjay Gupta
00:10:35
'I think that's all we have for today's episode, but if you have other health questions that are keeping you up at night, literally or figuratively, I want to know. I love these questions. Record a voice memo, email it to asksanjay@cnn.com or give us a call, (470) 396-0832 and leave a message. Thanks for listening. I'll be back next Tuesday.
Dr. Sanjay Gupta
00:11:01
Chasing life is a production of CNN Audio. Our podcast is produced by Eryn Mathewson, Jennifer Lai, Grace Walker, Lori Galaretta, Jesse Remedios, Sofía Sánchez, and Kyra Dahring. Andrea Kane is our medical writer. Our senior producer is Dan Bloom, Amanda Sealey is our showrunner, Dan Dzula is our technical director, and the executive producer of CNN Audio is Steve Lickteig. With support from Jamus Andrest, Jon Dianora, Haley Thomas, Alex Manasseri, Robert Mathers, Leni Steinhardt, Nichole Pesaru and Lisa Namerow. Special thanks to Ben Tinker and Nadia Kounang of CNN Health and Katie Hinman.