Rep. Ken Buck says he told McCarthy to "either cut a deal or you've got to give ... others a chance"

January 4, 2023 GOP deadlocked over House speaker vote

By Aditi Sangal, Adrienne Vogt, Maureen Chowdhury, Elise Hammond and Tori B. Powell, CNN

Updated 9:59 p.m. ET, January 4, 2023
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2:55 p.m. ET, January 4, 2023

Rep. Ken Buck says he told McCarthy to "either cut a deal or you've got to give ... others a chance"

From CNN's Kit Maher

US Rep. Ken Buck, left, talks to CNN's Jake Tapper on Wednesday.
US Rep. Ken Buck, left, talks to CNN's Jake Tapper on Wednesday. (CNN)

Republican Rep. Ken Buck of Colorado said he‘s had a “number of conversations” with Kevin McCarthy and that he told the House GOP leader he needs to make a deal with members who oppose his speakership or step aside.

McCarthy “needs to figure out how to make a deal in order to move forward and keep it simple,” Buck said, then bringing up Rep. Steve Scalise.  

“I said to Kevin at some point, you know, you've got to make sure you gotta either cut a deal or you've got to give Steve [Scalise] a chance or others a chance to see if they can put it together. My feeling is Kevin gets more votes than anybody else,” Buck told reporters outside the House chamber. 

"There are a few of those 20 that just aren't going to vote for Kevin McCarthy but would vote for somebody else. There are some of the others ... who want changes in the rules and there are some others who care about policy. I think if Steve meets those three needs, he will be able to move forward and take the speakership," Buck told CNN's Dana Bash shortly after speaking with reporters.

Buck told CNN that "today the conference as a whole needs to make a decision."

Buck told reporters the House is in “a state of disarray and chaos,” but he remains “optimistic.”

“All you need is one, two votes, right, and then you get a speaker, you get people sworn in and you move forward,” Buck said.  

“I shouldn't say him by name, but there are some people who have personal disagreements, and the margin is so small that those people could make a difference,” Buck said. 

Watch the moment:

2:25 p.m. ET, January 4, 2023

Risk for McCarthy: The longer this drags out, the more votes he may lose

From Manu Raju and Morgan Rimmer

Some of Kevin McCarthy's allies are signaling a warning: They may not be there with him if this drags out. While he has firm support among most of the conference, some are not committed to sticking with him.

Rep. Ken Buck, who has voted for McCarthy, says “at some point,” he needs to step aside and let Rep. Steve Scalise run.

“What I've asked is that if Kevin can't get there, that he step aside and give Steve a chance to do it,” Buck told CNN.

Similarly, Rep. Alex Mooney didn’t rule out voting for someone other than McCarthy for speaker. He said he is not an “Only Kevin” Republican.

“I take it one vote at a time,” Mooney said. “I told him I’d vote for him the first time and I did, and it stayed that way yesterday. I’m planning to stay that way today. But we'll see.”

2:15 p.m. ET, January 4, 2023

In pictures: The speaker stalemate continues

From CNN Digital's Photo Team

Wednesday’s first vote for House speaker wasn’t much different from the three failed votes on Tuesday.

Kevin McCarthy still hasn’t been able to lock down the votes he needed for the speakership.

Today's second vote — and the fifth overall — is now underway. Check out some of the scenes we’ve seen so far from Wednesday’s proceedings:

Roll is called on the House floor on Wednesday.
Roll is called on the House floor on Wednesday. (Olivier Douliery/AFP/Getty Images)
US Rep. Matt Gaetz, a Republican from Florida, passionately addresses other conservatives on the House floor after the first failed vote on Wednesday.
US Rep. Matt Gaetz, a Republican from Florida, passionately addresses other conservatives on the House floor after the first failed vote on Wednesday. (Evelyn Hockstein/Reuters)
US Rep. Byron Donalds, a Republican from Florida, received 20 votes for the speakership in Wednesday's first vote.
US Rep. Byron Donalds, a Republican from Florida, received 20 votes for the speakership in Wednesday's first vote. (Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)

Kevin McCarthy puts his hand to his face as voting began on Wednesday.
Kevin McCarthy puts his hand to his face as voting began on Wednesday. (Evelyn Hockstein/Reuters)

Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, seen in the foreground, talks to reporters as she arrives at the Capitol on Wednesday.
Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, seen in the foreground, talks to reporters as she arrives at the Capitol on Wednesday. (Andrew Harnik/AP)

2:09 p.m. ET, January 4, 2023

McCarthy appears to suffer defeat in 5th round of voting

GOP House Leader Kevin McCarthy appears to have failed, again, to secure the votes needed for speaker as the House continues voting for a fifth round.

A nominee needs 218 votes, but the number required could change if members withhold their votes. The House can't kick off the new Congress or swear in new members until a speaker is elected.

2:06 p.m. ET, January 4, 2023

Rep. Donalds non-committal over how long he plans to stick it out as a candidate

From CNN's Manu Raju

GOP Rep. Byron Donalds was non-committal over how long he plans to stay in the race.

“What I'm committed to is making sure that we get a deal so we can elect a speaker and then get back to governing,” Donalds told CNN.

He then walked on floor.

2:08 p.m. ET, January 4, 2023

Rep. Lauren Boebert nominates Rep. Byron Donalds for House speaker in the 5th round of voting

US Rep. Lauren Boebert nominates Rep. Byron Donalds for Wednesday's second vote.
US Rep. Lauren Boebert nominates Rep. Byron Donalds for Wednesday's second vote. (Alex Brandon/AP)

Colorado Rep. Lauren Boebert renominated Florida Rep. Byron Donald in the fifth round of voting for House Speaker. Donalds was also nominated in the fourth round and captured 20 votes.

"Getting the job done is what we were elected to do. And that starts with having a leader who supports Republican principles, builds consensus and has a proven track record of success. Byron Donalds is that leader," she said in her nomination speech.

"We see him as someone who can communicate what we're all wanting to do in this House," she added.

She concluded with a reference to Donald Trump's endorsement of Kevin McCarthy on Wednesday morning, saying the former president should tell McCarthy, "sir, you do not have the votes, and it's time to withdraw."

WATCH:

2:04 p.m. ET, January 4, 2023

5th round of voting has started

The House of Representatives has begun its fifth round of voting for speaker.

Democrats are united around their nominee Rep. Hakeem Jeffries.

Republicans have nominated Rep. Kevin McCarthy, who has now failed to get the majority four times in a stalemate that has now stretched into its second day after the House adjourned after three consecutive votes Tuesday.

Republicans have also again nominated Rep. Byron Donalds in opposition to McCarthy. Donalds received 20 votes during the fourth ballot earlier today.

1:48 p.m. ET, January 4, 2023

NOW: McCarthy nominated for speaker in 5th round of voting

House GOP leader Kevin McCarthy was nominated for House speaker once again by Rep. Warren Davidson of Ohio after he failed to garner enough votes to win in three rounds on Tuesday and another round on Wednesday.

"We're on the precipice of such a destructive argument today. I plead with all, all of my Republican colleagues: let cooler, more rational heads prevail. Let us unite as Republicans to elect the next speaker of the House," he said in his nomination speech.

McCarthy told CNN earlier that he was not worried if his opposition grew on the fourth ballot. “It doesn’t matter — I have the most votes,” he said.

2:03 p.m. ET, January 4, 2023

McCarthy fails to win speakership on 4th ballot

From CNN's Annie Grayer, Clare Foran, Kristin Wilson and Manu Raju

Kevin McCarthy listens during the first vote Wednesday.
Kevin McCarthy listens during the first vote Wednesday. (Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images)

Rep. Kevin McCarthy failed in his fourth attempt to secure the House speaker’s gavel, with 20 Republicans voting for Florida Rep. Byron Donalds.

The group switched their collective support from Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan to Donalds. Additionally, GOP Rep. Victoria Spartz of Indiana voted present, lowering McCarthy’s threshold to 217.

Spartz, a McCarthy supporter, told CNN she voted present because she wanted to allow for more negotiations within the conference to address the concerns of the 20 members. She gave McCarthy a heads up ahead of time.

Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries had the unanimous support of his caucus.

Here's a look at the final tally:

  • 212 for Jeffries
  • 201 for McCarthy
  • 20 for Donalds
  • 1 present vote